TheTonester
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Yes, all the issues I mentioned in a little over a year of ownership. My commute is 50 miles a day during weekdays.
Sorry if you already answered this, but what brands of PPF and ceramic do you have?
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Yes, all the issues I mentioned in a little over a year of ownership. My commute is 50 miles a day during weekdays.
I should also add that there is no obsolute right or wrong answer about which type of protection is best. It is a personal choice. After hearing all the pros and cons of each option and taking into consideration your own needs, preferences, and budget, choose the option that is right for you.
I totally respect the point of view that paint protection film is too expensive. After all, a full car PPF can cost $5K or about 10% of the total cost of the car. If you want to protect the paint, buying a $10 bottle of Turtle Wax Seal and Shine and applying it once every 3 months is a perfectly legitimate and cost effective way to protect the paint. And if you ever a rock chip or scratches in the paint, you can always have a paint correction and/or repainting done.
Yet, I personally decided to get the Xpel full car PPF done shortly after I took delivery of my P3D and I am very glad I did. There are several reasons for this:
1) The self healing ability of PPF is truly amazing and revolutionary. There is no wax, sealant or ceramic coating on the market that has the self healing properties of PPF. For those of you who do not know, if you scratch the paint covered with PPF, the scratch will disappear after about 20 minutes in the heat of the sun. As a result, your car's paint can remain scratch and swirl free for years.
2) PPF reduces the chance of the paint being damaged in minor accidents. I have had an incident where someone dinged my fender. Without the PPF, the fender and surrounding areas would have needed to have been resprayed. But because of the PPF, the paint was not damaged. A dent removal guy took the dent out and the PPF was replaced. Yes, I had to pay for the PPF to be replaced but it was not that expensive and it only took about 3 hours. If I had it repainted, it would have taken 2 to 3 days.
3) Like most major PPF manufacturers, Xpel PPF comes with an excellent 10 year warranty that is transferable to a new owner. My installer said that Xpel really stands behind their product and they will replace any PPF that has stains, rips, or bubbles. And when I sell the car, it will be an attractive selling point to prospective buyer that the car has full PPF.
So to answer the OP's question, I recommend you put your money into as much PPF as you can afford. I would then apply a durable spray sealant to the PPF and the rest of the car once every 3 or 4 months.
If I had to do it all over again I would have skipped both PPF and ceramic coating.
The PPF is terribly expensive, rocks are going to tear it and the tears look a heck of a lot worse than a basically 2D rock chip. The only solution is to get those panels removed and reapplied ($$$).
The ceramic coat, when damaged, spiders and cracks. It looks horrible. If this is on top of the film, you'd need the film removed, replaced, and then new ceramic coat applied ($$$).
Let's keep in mind I've had this for a little over a year.
If a rock hits hard enough it'll bust through the film and still chip the paint so it's like you can't win. I'd bet money that I could have had the entire car resprayed for far cheaper than it was to put film and ceramic coat on the entire car.
Does this really happen? Ceramic coating cracking and spidering? I am new to all this but have an appointment Monday to have my new P3D fully PPF and Ceramic coated, but never heard of this ceramic coating cracking and leaving marks before, sounds awful after spending so much money.
Yes, 2, 3, 5 years depending on how many coats, also you have to bring the car in every year for a detail in most cases to keep that warrenty.The PPF should come with a long-term warranty. Don't nearly all professionally installed ceramic coatings also come with a long term warranty?
That’s pretty much high end stuff that will look great and will last, good choice.The PPF I wanted to get is the Xpel Ultimate Plus and has a 10 year warranty. The ceramic coating is the Ceramic Pro and comes with a Lifetime Warranty.
Thanks Fred.
it’s a good amount of money but I’m hoping to keep this car for 10 years and feel it’s worth the money.
I think you’d need to contact Xpel for that answer. That being said, my installer was listed on Xpel’s website and he did a phenomenal job. In my opinion, I think you’d have more leverage, if you went with one of their listed installers, in case of a “bad install.”Does anyone know if Xpel only support the warranty if it was installed my a certified installer?
the shop I’m looking at aren’t on the XPel website but they have great reviews online and are an official ceramic pro shop.
ideally don’t want to be going to two different places but if it’s only valid under warranty if it was installed by an Xpel certified installer then I’ll need to re-asses.
Sorry if you already answered this, but what brands of PPF and ceramic do you have?
Does this really happen? Ceramic coating cracking and spidering? I am new to all this but have an appointment Monday to have my new P3D fully PPF and Ceramic coated, but never heard of this ceramic coating cracking and leaving marks before, sounds awful after spending so much money.
One thing to note is that if your ceramic coating is damaged (e.g. rock chip), the whole section will need to replaced, can't just do a spot treatment. The damaged section needs to be polished (removing existing ceramic coating) before applying a new one coat.Ok, thanks for sharing the full story so everyone can make a more informed decision. From what I have learned you don't want to put anything on a ceramic coated surface. Ceramic coat fills all coarseness and prevents adhesion.
Will you have the side mirrors for the model Y?One thing to note is that if your ceramic coating is damaged (e.g. rock chip), the whole section will need to replaced, can't just do a spot treatment. The damaged section needs to be polished (removing existing ceramic coating) before applying a new one coat.
You can bet on itWill you have the side mirrors for the model Y?
Fred