This is an interesting point. Very quiet car. Very comfortable. AP or not, I can see this could be the case, but we can't rule out other causes for this accident of course. Could equally have been a heart attack etc.
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This is an interesting point. Very quiet car. Very comfortable. AP or not, I can see this could be the case, but we can't rule out other causes for this accident of course. Could equally have been a heart attack etc.
Car makers of all kinds submit cars to fire depts to develop rescue procedures.
My son and I watched the LAFD cut open a brand new luxury car as a demonstration during a defensive driving school. They know exactly how to cut the doors off, remove the glass safely, and cut the pillers to remove or peel back the roof to extract victims. It takes just a few minutes.
Cars also disconnect the fuel pump or main pack relay at the time the airbags are triggered, but sometime even when they are not. They read an accelerometer and an orientation sensor and it shuts them off. A good owner's manual will tell you how to enable it if it accidently shuts the car off when the collision is not significant.
My son and I watched the LAFD cut open a brand new luxury car as a demonstration during a defensive driving school. They know exactly how to cut the doors off, remove the glass safely, and cut the pillers to remove or peel back the roof to extract victims. It takes just a few minutes.
Cars also disconnect the fuel pump or main pack relay at the time the airbags are triggered, but sometime even when they are not. They read an accelerometer and an orientation sensor and it shuts them off. A good owner's manual will tell you how to enable it if it accidently shuts the car off when the collision is not significant.
Mercedes has this.
Given their commitment to safety, I am sure they would license it to Tesla for free (if a license were required).
McHoffa
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I wish every accident made headlines. It would make regular cars look like the death traps that they are.
Skotty
2014 S P85 | 2023 F-150L
Big trees don't move, and they don't absorb impacts. Not good to hit one at speed. It's like a head on collision, and if you have ever noticed, head on collisions are frequently fatal. The S can absorb some of the impact on it's own, but it's kind of a worse case scenario. You can die just from the rapid deceleration, even if there is no cabin intrusion.
I do wonder if maybe Tesla could build an auto-battery disconnect linked to air bag deployment. That could help reduce electrocution risks and fears when rescuing occupants from a Tesla that has been in a serious collision.
I do wonder if maybe Tesla could build an auto-battery disconnect linked to air bag deployment. That could help reduce electrocution risks and fears when rescuing occupants from a Tesla that has been in a serious collision.
I think the later photos were taken after the airbag was moved away from the window, so what you see is the view through the window.
Garlan Garner
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I agree.
Why do we have to post Every time a Tesla crashes and fictitiously burns?
You know......every 50 billion car trips.
Yes, it's getting slightly ghoulish.
An accident early in the morning on such a road - I would also consider the involvement of wildlife (deer, wild boar) as a possible aspect.
As to rescue instructions; Mercedes is putting QR codes with rescue information on their cars now. That looks like a good idea to me.
Garlan Garner
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At this point, they don't even know if the driver was alive at the time of the crash.
As @ecarfan posted, based on the reported fact that *part* of the battery was found burning on the road, the impact speed must have been substantial enough to not only detatch the battery from the car, but also to rip it apart.
Having personally seen the immediate aftermath of an ICE accident where the driver suffered a heart attack, causing him to press hard on the gas pedal and drive into a lamp-post at "over 70mph", I can see this a likely scenario.
Whatever the cause, it is a tragic accident and thoughts are with his family.
As @ecarfan posted, based on the reported fact that *part* of the battery was found burning on the road, the impact speed must have been substantial enough to not only detatch the battery from the car, but also to rip it apart.
Having personally seen the immediate aftermath of an ICE accident where the driver suffered a heart attack, causing him to press hard on the gas pedal and drive into a lamp-post at "over 70mph", I can see this a likely scenario.
Whatever the cause, it is a tragic accident and thoughts are with his family.
Sorry, but this is both premature and exceedingly unfair. The driver wouldn't be the first person to get killed trying to avoid a collision with e.g. a deer or a wild boar under such conditions.
Daniel 74
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There was a fire in the cabin, about an hour after the accident as stated and illustrated in this article:
https://fd.nl/ondernemen/1166498/tesla-start-onderzoek-naar-overleden-bestuurder-baarn
https://fd.nl/ondernemen/1166498/tesla-start-onderzoek-naar-overleden-bestuurder-baarn
Garlan Garner
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- Why would a journalist speculate it might have been active without any evidence it was? Even if Autopilot was active, does Autopilot have to do with this unfortunate incident?
- The same thing could happen to any Automobile.
This incident, while unfortunate, does not deserve it's own thread.
Daniel 74
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Garlan Garner
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That is true. If that journalist is wrong....he/she needs to be fined and/or fired.- Why would a journalist speculate it might have been active without any evidence it was? Even if Autopilot was active, does Autopilot have to do with this unfortunate incident?
- The same thing could happen to any Automobile.
This incident, while unfortunate, does not deserve it's own thread.
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