New feature: Autosteer Stop Light Warning

[strangecosmos]

This is apparently new in the 2019.8.3 firmware:

Autosteer Stop Light Warning​

Your car may warn you in some cases if it detects that you are about to run a red light while Autosteer is in use. This is not a substitute for an attentive driver and will not stop the car.
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Photo by u/IV-Crush on Reddit.

 

[diplomat33]

It's a positive sign that Tesla is inching closer to the "traffic light recognition" feature listed under FSD.

 

[azred]

Is this feature only included on FSD cars? Seems like it should be so limited. (But NOA made it into EAP and that seems like it should be unique to FSD.)

 

[Az_Rael]

Is this feature only included on FSD cars? Seems like it should be so limited. (But NOA made it into EAP and that seems like it should be unique to FSD.)

People without FSD are reporting getting it. It looks like it does require AP at least based on the note about Autosteer

 

[azred]

People without FSD are reporting getting it. It looks like it does require AP at least based on the note about Autosteer

As a safety feature I guess it makes sense FSD isn’t required, but as a safety feature it doesn’t seem like AP should be required either.

 

[croman]

TLDR: It doesn't work. There are 2 youtube videos testing it. No one has gotten any alerts at all. This guy even ran a yellow/red.

 

[emmz0r]

Is this feature only included on FSD cars? Seems like it should be so limited. (But NOA made it into EAP and that seems like it should be unique to FSD.)

Probably requires Model 3

 

[Az_Rael]

TLDR: It doesn't work. There are 2 youtube videos testing it. No one has gotten any alerts at all. This guy even ran a yellow/red.

Oh my. People are running reds on public roads to "test" this? What will it be like when they start releasing more city street FSD features? "Elon, take the wheel!!!"

 

[Barklikeadog]

WTF... guy is testing this out on busy streets... and he has to slam on the brakes.... AND COULD HAVE RUN OVER THAT 5 YEAR OLD ON A BIKE?!?!??!?!?

I'm watching this with the volume off, so I may not have the context but that is reeaally dumb.

 

[Az_Rael]

WTF... guy is testing this out on busy streets... and he has to slam on the brakes.... AND COULD HAVE RUN OVER THAT 5 YEAR OLD ON A BIKE?!?!??!?!?

I'm watching this with the volume off, so I may not have the context but that is reeaally dumb.

I didnt want to reward the guy with the clicks so I didnt watch. I think we shouldnt link to these type of videos, it just encourages the idiots making them to make more.

 

[BestRadar]

I didnt want to reward the guy with the clicks so I didnt watch. I think we shouldnt link to these type of videos, it just encourages the idiots making them to make more.

If you don't test something how do you know it works? Are you just going to take musk's word for it? I give this guy credit for giving Tesla the benefit of the doubt and testing it out. He was in control of the vehicle and waiting to see a notification that a red light was ahead but no notification.

 

[Barklikeadog]

If you don't test something how do you know it works? Are you just going to take musk's word for it? I give this guy credit for giving Tesla the benefit of the doubt and testing it out. He was in control of the vehicle and waiting to see a notification that a red light was ahead but no notification.

Seeing something like this just reinforces my feeling that FSD is at minimum a decade away.

 

[BestRadar]

Seeing something like this just reinforces my feeling that FSD is at minimum a decade away.

Oh. No doubt this is not coming anytime soon. Still has me scratching my head how the video they showed me 2 1/2 years ago was stopping at stop signs and at red lights and this is what we have today 2 1/2 years later.

 

[Barklikeadog]

Oh. No doubt this is not coming anytime soon. Still has me scratching my head how the video they showed me 2 1/2 years ago was stopping at stop signs and at red lights and this is what we have today 2 1/2 years later.

If that video was real and organic, they would have driven from NY to LA autonomously without the driver giving any input.

 

[electronblue]

Seeing something like this just reinforces my feeling that FSD is at minimum a decade away.

Reading stop signs in itself should not be that hard, after all EyeQ2 from MobilEye did it already a decade ago. It is making a useful implementation of it for self-driving that is harder because there is so much more to take into consideration...

Then again Tesla seems to be struggling with the basic vision bit, just like in other aspects of Autopilot 2+ too...

 

[Az_Rael]

If you don't test something how do you know it works? Are you just going to take musk's word for it? I give this guy credit for giving Tesla the benefit of the doubt and testing it out. He was in control of the vehicle and waiting to see a notification that a red light was ahead but no notification.

There is a limit to what the public should test on public streets. Did you test out your AEB to make sure it reduces crash velocity by 25mph by rear ending a car in front of you? Of course not. Attempting to run red lights with other traffic in the area is a similar thing. The guy could get rear ended or not be able to stop in time all in the name of "testing".

These systems should be tested by Tesla and the various testing agencies on private roads/courses. Not Joe Q. YouTuber.

 

[Barklikeadog]

There is a limit to what the public should test on public streets. Did you test out your AEB to make sure it reduces crash velocity by 25mph by rear ending a car in front of you? Of course not. Attempting to run red lights with other traffic in the area is a similar thing. The guy could get rear ended or not be able to stop in time all in the name of "testing".

These systems should be tested by Tesla and the various testing agencies on private roads/courses. Not Joe Q. YouTuber.

just call it 'beta' and you can do whatever you want with zero liability

 

[ChrML]

AND COULD HAVE RUN OVER THAT 5 YEAR OLD ON A BIKE?!?!??!?!?

He was nowhere near that 5 year old on a bike.

 

[Bladerskb]

TLDR: It doesn't work. There are 2 youtube videos testing it. No one has gotten any alerts at all. This guy even ran a yellow/red.

 

[thewishmaster]

I guess it works better at night right now?