New FSD Beta Button for 2021 Refreshed Plaid and Long Range

[MarcG]

Try a reboot of the car. Some said that fixed it not showing up on other cars.

Awesome! So it’s there for new S!

I’m torn about this - half of me is really excited, half of me worried about using FSD on city streets with the yoke..

I’ve watched some videos of FSD betas, and the steering <device> turns quite rapidly sometimes.

With a round steering wheel, you can easily keep your hands at the same positions (say, 9 and 3) and let the wheel slide through your palms/fingers, but if FSD isn’t doing what you want it to, it’s pretty easy to tighten yout grip on the wheel to take over.

I can imagine a situation where the yoke is turning more than one full revolution quickly while the car is doing something stupid, like heading toward a median/wall/biker/vehicle etc. and I’m not super confident it will be easy to take over quickly enough given the shape of the yoke..

I’m honestly not trying to create FUD here, but please be extra careful out there while on FSD with the yoke. Reports of how that’s working for you would be greatly appreciated!

 

[DerbyDave]

I have a feeling it is ongoing evaluation. It says it can be revoked at any time.

True, but you can use it after the initial evaluation of "7 days" until they revoke it for other obscure reasons.

 

[jebinc]

Here's my version of the story....

1. Downloaded and installed 2021.32.22 (Yes, I pressed the button and more to enroll) - No issues
2. Updated iphone app to 4.1 - No issues
3. Logged out of and back into app - No Issues
4. Went or a drive. Engaged AP and later Autosteer. Had to "break the lock" a couple of times as AP/AS screwed up or was doing unsafe driving (yeah, really) - No issues
5. Returned home and parked car - No Issues
6. Went into app looking for driving score (waited five minutes, first) - Big issues; no data, no score (See #2 and #3 above, so not that).

Am I surprised? No. I suspect YOKE cars will be last to get the beta software, many revisions down the road.
@WilliamG

Update: Tried deleting the app and reinstalling - nada. When for another drive and waited five minutes to check the app - nada. I'm sticking with my conclusion above for now. Yoker's are out or last, when it comes to getting the actual beta FSD load.

 

[WilliamG]

Update: Tried deleting the app and reinstalling - nada. When for another drive and waited five minutes to check the app - nada. I'm sticking with my conclusion above for now. Yoker's are out or last, when it comes to getting the actual beta FSD load.

The button isn’t in the app. It’s in the Autopilot menu in the car, no?

 

[jebinc]

Try a reboot of the car. Some said that fixed it not showing up on other cars.

Awesome! So it’s there for new S!

@WilliamG The first thing I did was reboot the car after loading the new firmware and opting in for the Beta FSD load. Nada

 

[WilliamG]

@WilliamG The first thing I did was reboot the car after loading the new firmware and opting in for the Beta FSD load. Nada

Oh I follow you now. Ok, let’s give it some time and see what happens.

 

[brunla]

Update: Tried deleting the app and reinstalling - nada. When for another drive and waited five minutes to check the app - nada. I'm sticking with my conclusion above for now. Yoker's are out or last, when it comes to getting the actual beta FSD load.

I read that some people didn't see things in the app for hours. At least you have an iPhone. I have no idea what is going to happen with my Android since they are not on 4.1

 

[xEvoLveDx]

So I enrolled in the fsd beta in my plaid this morning and from what I read online they aren't monitoring high speeds or straight line acceleration. I know they mentioned cornering g-force but does this mean I can still 'have fun' in my plaid in a straight line and not have a negative impact on my safe score?

 

[jebinc]

The button isn’t in the app. It’s in the Autopilot menu in the car, no?

@WilliamG Right, but the driving report is in the app, well, not mine, but that's where the score is supposed to show up per the enrollment screen....

 

[jebinc]

Oh I follow you now. Ok, let’s give it some time and see what happens.

@WilliamG Could be their insurance calculator is overwhelmed, and will take a while to produce a score to send to the app? Time will tell.... I wonder what other Plaid enrollee's are seeing in the app (or not)?

 

[brunla]

Here is how they handle the safety scoring for people who have not seen it:

Safety Score Beta | Tesla Support

The Safety Score Beta is an assessment of your driving behavior based on several metrics called Safety Factors. These are combined to estimate the likelihood that your driving could result in a future collision. We combine your daily Safety Scores (up to 30 days) to calculate the aggregated...

www.tesla.com

 

[xEvoLveDx]

^I read somewhere you have to drive over 10miles for it to update score at first. Did you drive over 10?

 

[omarsultan]

So I enrolled in the fsd beta in my plaid this morning and from what I read online they aren't monitoring high speeds or straight line acceleration. I know they mentioned cornering g-force but does this mean I can still 'have fun' in my plaid in a straight line and not have a negative impact on my safe score?

Dunno. I am putting the 19s on the car today to test 0-60 times vs the 21s--think I will defer on button pushing until after, just to be safe.

 

[brunla]

Dunno. I am putting the 19s on the car today to test 0-60 times vs the 21s--think I will defer on button pushing until after, just to be safe.

Supposedly faster on the 19's which is shocking! Btw did you buy the new 19's for fun or just testing them out?

 

[HX_Guy]

I have a feeling it is ongoing evaluation. It says it can be revoked at any time.

Was going to say the same thing. People putting it into Chill mode is a bit pointless as if you go back to your normal driving, it seems FSD will be revoked. Or at least they threaten to, maybe they actually won't.

 

[omarsultan]

Supposedly faster on the 19's which is shocking! Btw did you buy the new 19's for fun or just testing them out?

Mostly because they don't make all-seasons that fit the 21s yet.

 

[omarsultan]

Was going to say the same thing. People putting it into Chill mode is a bit pointless as if you go back to your normal driving, it seems FSD will be revoked. Or at least they threaten to, maybe they actually won't.

Yeah - sometime back Elon tweeting something about kicking people out of the closed beta for unsafe driving behavior.

 

[omarsultan]

I also wonder if somewhere in the legalese you have to click through, they say they are turning the cabin camera on?

 

[xEvoLveDx]

I think the best dragy run for a stock weight plaid on stock 21s is 2.16 0-60 (1.99 with rollout). Curious if you will be able to beat that on 19s.

 

[Phlier]

^I read somewhere you have to drive over 10miles for it to update score at first. Did you drive over 10?

From: Determining Safety Score
"
What’s required for me to get a Safety Score for my vehicle?
When available for your vehicle, you will see 'Safety Score' on the home screen of the Tesla app. To receive a Safety Score:

• Your vehicle must be on software update 2021.32.22 or later. To check the latest software version on your car, tap 'Software' on your touchscreen.
• Your vehicle must be connected to a cellular or Wi-Fi network.
• You need to take a trip that’s at least 0.1 miles on your vehicle."