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I think this is exactly it.Would there be any correlation between FSD and the yoke?
ITs not it. The Refresh has differnt chips. They have quite a bit of work to port FSD to the new models. Not even early access people have FSD on the refresh. By early access I mean the people that were at the refresh launch, all 21 cars are in the beta. THey don't have it, and I don't expect us to see it this year.I think this is exactly it.
@cytranic, you do appear to be insightful on posts I've seen. So would you please give your thoughts on this FSD on refresh?ITs not it. The Refresh has differnt chips. They have quite a bit of work to port FSD to the new models. Not even early access people have FSD on the refresh. By early access I mean the people that were at the refresh launch, all 21 cars are in the beta. THey don't have it, and I don't expect us to see it this year, or next.
Really my only insight is knowing one of those 21 cars and they get direct responses from Tesla on why its delayed. So far we know its a different stack. Meaning FSD has to be ported over. This means they need to divert resources from current FSD team to what I'm calling HW3.5 stack on the new refresh. I think Tesla is trying to please the masses (Early Model S, Model 3, Model Y). They don't have the resources to divert the Auto Pilot team to the new cars yet.@cytranic, you do appear to be insightful on posts I've seen. So would you please give your thoughts on this FSD on refresh?
New FSD Beta Button for 2021 Refreshed Plaid and Long Range
It's just going to be interesting. I haven't seen any videos with the yoke and how people handle it. Here is some Yoke time. I question the hands-gripping position and the index-finger or "nub" turn looks pretty risky at the hairpinteslamotorsclub.com
That's not true. The early Model S & X people were forgotten in the FSD Beta update.Really my only insight is knowing one of those 21 cars and they get direct responses from Tesla on why its delayed. So far we know its a different stack. Meaning FSD has to be ported over. This means they need to divert resources from current FSD team to what I'm calling HW3.5 stack on the new refresh. I think Tesla is trying to please the masses (Early Model S, Model 3, Model Y). They don't have the resources to divert the Auto Pilot team to the new cars yet.
Again, this is sort of my opinion based on 3rd party knowledge of the situation. I really hope I'm incorrect, but I feel I might be spot on.
Then why did they push the software to us refresh car owners to allow us to opt in and go through the safety score BS for weeks thinking we would get the beta? Why didn't they tell us up front that the refresh cars weren't getting it?Really my only insight is knowing one of those 21 cars and they get direct responses from Tesla on why its delayed. So far we know its a different stack. Meaning FSD has to be ported over. This means they need to divert resources from current FSD team to what I'm calling HW3.5 stack on the new refresh. I think Tesla is trying to please the masses (Early Model S, Model 3, Model Y). They don't have the resources to divert the Auto Pilot team to the new cars yet.
Again, this is sort of my opinion based on 3rd party knowledge of the situation. I really hope I'm incorrect, but I feel I might be spot on.
Data.Then why did they push the software to us refresh car owners to allow us to opt in and go through the safety score BS for weeks thinking we would get the beta? Why didn't they tell us up front that the refresh cars weren't getting it?
What about this guy?ITs not it. The Refresh has differnt chips. They have quite a bit of work to port FSD to the new models. Not even early access people have FSD on the refresh. By early access I mean the people that were at the refresh launch, all 21 cars are in the beta. THey don't have it, and I don't expect us to see it this year.
I think the data that was found on his Twitter was he was in EAP before and does not have the public release of the FSD beta.What about this guy?
the point is that the Refresh with its "new chips" STILL HAS A FSD Beta runningI think the data that was found on his Twitter was he was in EAP before and does not have the public release of the FSD beta.
Exactly! There may be hope.the point is that the Refresh with its "new chips" STILL HAS A FSD Beta running
I have no insight as to what is happening behind the curtain, but my experience with the car supports this--whatever HW/SW stack is running in the car is its own thing and I expect the refreshes to trail the rest of the fleet.Really my only insight is knowing one of those 21 cars and they get direct responses from Tesla on why its delayed. So far we know its a different stack. Meaning FSD has to be ported over. This means they need to divert resources from current FSD team to what I'm calling HW3.5 stack on the new refresh. I think Tesla is trying to please the masses (Early Model S, Model 3, Model Y). They don't have the resources to divert the Auto Pilot team to the new cars yet.
Again, this is sort of my opinion based on 3rd party knowledge of the situation. I really hope I'm incorrect, but I feel I might be spot on.
Well, TBH, all we have seen is the visualization up and running so far...the point is that the Refresh with its "new chips" STILL HAS A FSD Beta running
I suppose @vincent13031925 could be lying but seems kind of odd if he is. "Sexiest combination: Yoke + Beta".Well, TBH, all we have seen is the visualization up and running so far...
Yes, the UI is different as well (a hybrid between v10 and not yet released v11), so there's that. They should also not have been surprised by a yoke/FSD interaction, as they designed and pushed both - and have had since April/May to release beta FSD to their elite EAP/NDA testers with yoke cars. It's not like they woke up on 10/8 and said, "shite, I wonder how the spinning yoke will play with FSD...." and just started testing that this week...... What's BS is they installed the "button" on the yoke cars, and never intended (it seems) to release beta FSD to these cars initially, while leading everyone to believe they would, if you had a "perfect score". More likely, the plan was to delay the yoke installs, silently, but they still wanted the yoke sheep drivers to collect much needed data for them....ITs not it. The Refresh has differnt chips. They have quite a bit of work to port FSD to the new models. Not even early access people have FSD on the refresh. By early access I mean the people that were at the refresh launch, all 21 cars are in the beta. THey don't have it, and I don't expect us to see it this year.
I am not saying he is lying, we have the pic. I am just pointing out that better visualization is one thing and FSD support is another. In the AP menu, "FSD visualization preview" is a settable option. I guess we'll have to see if there is a follow-up video that shows FSD beta in action.I suppose @vincent13031925 could be lying but seems kind of odd if he is. "Sexiest combination: Yoke + Beta".