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[matbl]

Thanks for posting the picture. Wonder what the screenshot is from then?
Updated MS in dev? MX? Upcoming sw only? Can the feature be added by SW update?

 

[Matias]

I'm positive, that blind spot detection needs proper hardware, which current Model S doesn't have.

 

[matbl]

How do you know the hardware isn't already there?

 

[Matias]

If the hardware already is there, it would be in operation. It would make no sense to have hardware two years waiting for software.

 

[matbl]

Found another thing. In the fuses listing there is a fuse for "vanity lights". I thought there were no vanity mirror lights?

 

[Mayhemm]

Found another thing. In the fuses listing there is a fuse for "vanity lights". I thought there were no vanity mirror lights?

Those probably refer to the overhead "reading lights" because you're right, there aren't any mirror lights in Model S.

 

[seanahan]

If the hardware already is there, it would be in operation. It would make no sense to have hardware two years waiting for software.

Software developers are expensive, Tesla employs a limited number, and they are busy with a variety of projects. History is littered with software projects that overran their schedules by years and their budgets by millions of dollars.

That being said, I don't think the hardware is there either, I just disagree with your rationale.

 

[green1]

Software developers are expensive, Tesla employs a limited number, and they are busy with a variety of projects. History is littered with software projects that overran their schedules by years and their budgets by millions of dollars.

That being said, I don't think the hardware is there either, I just disagree with your rationale.

It would make sense that the hardware is all designed and ready to go, but no sense spending the money to install it if it won't work yet anyway. Could be an optional part anyway, and you can't get people paying for an option if the software isn't ready yet, so you don't put the hardware in either.

 

[Matias]

I believe blind spot detection, ACC with precrash system and line assist will be optional package.

 

[seanahan]

I believe blind spot detection, ACC with precrash system and line assist will be optional package.

The real question is, will they be able to retrofit. And if so, how much will it cost. If it was <2k, I think most of us would do it in a heartbeat. But if it's a $3k option at time of purchase, and $6k afterwards, I don't know.

 

[AmpedRealtor]

The real question is, will they be able to retrofit. And if so, how much will it cost. If it was <2k, I think most of us would do it in a heartbeat. But if it's a $3k option at time of purchase, and $6k afterwards, I don't know.

Let's use parking sensors as a guide... $500 option at time of purchase, but a $6,000 retrofit afterwards.

 

[green1]

Won't be optional for long, I hear rumours that you soon won't be able to get a 5* safety rating without it, so I can't see it being optional at that point.

 

[seanahan]

Let's use parking sensors as a guide... $500 option at time of purchase, but a $6,000 retrofit afterwards.

I imagine that's because the parking sensors are embedded into the bumpers. Aftermarket parking sensor systems look to cost only $300, but require being installed inside the bumper, so probably much more than that. And I've never met anyone who bothered getting this aftermarket. Mobileye is not too much more expensive than that, and installation doesn't require taking apart major pieces of the car. I assume the Tesla solution will require some disassembling to fit seamlessly into the look and feel.

So from this, even if the hardware is "cheap", the installation is likely to be expensive, and based on what we know, very few people will actually get the retrofit.