just ordered my P85D, didn't see the fog lights and parking sensors listed, are they included now?.... no paint armor either... anything else missing? does the P85D include the P85+ suspension setup and staggered wheels?
Tesla just said the P85D does have the P85+ suspension and staggered wheels... what a bargain, but not great for those who paid for the P85+.....
I have mixed feelings about this. I was hoping they didn't need a staggered setup given the AWD. I like being able to rotate the tires from a financial perspective.
Can you post a link to this? I can't find confirmation anywhere. Also, agreed, this is a bad move for AWD due to tire rotations. That's why I traded my 9" rear rims for 8.5" rims so I could run the same 245/45/21s on all four wheels. If it's true that the P85D has staggered wheels, that at a minimum should be an option a buyer can opt in/out of.
I'm a bit disappointed that they rolled the option for LED interior accent lighting into an all-in-one package that includes Nappa leather and yacht floor. I have absolutely no desire for the leather and yacht flooring but would love to have the accent lighting.
Rotating tires from a financial perspective, really? I have the P+ and burn tires like my wife burns our food. Do you honestly think that this will make a big difference when this much torque and power goes to the wheels? Just calculate the cost in and enjoy the possibilities
Yes. I already replace 4 tires in 8500 (Conti) - 12000 (Michelin) miles. It would be worse with staggered.
I can't understand why the accent lighting isn't just rolled into the base car. Bundling it with the leather is a poor decision.
Seems to me like the cost of tires would be a trivial thing on an ultra-high performance car costing >$100K. Ferraris have the same problem, but I rarely hear anyone complaining about it. If it's really an issue, buy a Leaf.
Based on my calculations, for me a $90k Model S cost about the same a $40k ICE car. But if you throw in crazy tire expenses (based on my mileage around 3 set per year!) that goes out the window.
Does the $40K ICE car you're comparing the Model S against offer the same level of performance? The thing about high-performance cars is that they make you want to drive them like high-performance cars. But on the up-side, you get many more smiles per mile than in a "normal" sedan. So it's not exactly an apples-to-apples comparison.
I was really sad to see that. Would have seriously considered trading up to a P85D, but absolutely do not want the air suspension. I could live with the staggered wheels: once you go AWD you're already signing up for restrictions on tire stuff. And it's easy to swap out the wheels for something else if you want a straight setup. Not so much with the air suspension. :-/ That and it sounds like they may be eliminating the fabric seat option, which could potentially be a second deal-breaker. Will have to wait-and-see on that one. Still, it's an impressive package.
Gizmo, can you give your feedback on the air suspension aspect to ownership. I'm curious what their philosophical response will be.
I thought the material was actually quite acceptable as it was clear and had little orange peel. The coverage was where I didn't see the value. I've seen worse clear bra material and even worse installations. For a manufacturer to offer this option was pretty cool, but I think it was outside their scope of work. They should have given clients the option of full coverage.