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New Model S vs P3D+

Discussion in 'Model S' started by Pandamoanium, Aug 5, 2018.

  1. Pandamoanium

    Pandamoanium Member

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    How many of you opted for the Model S instead of getting a performance Model 3 with the performance package loaded?

    I’m kind of torn and would like to hear some opinions and angles which I might not have considered.
     
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    Torn between what ? S P100D versus P3D ? Or CPO S 60 v P3D ? ...the type of S definitely plays a difference ...
     
  3. Pandamoanium

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    I'm thinking more along the lines of a loaded P3D versus S75D, maybe 100D. I do not feel like paying up more for a P100D with all of the possible changes in the next years.
     
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    I suppose it depends on how many people you need to fit in your car and for how long.
     
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    Between 75D and P3 ...P3 all the way ...between 100 and P3 the 100 ..my IMO ..m
     
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    For similar cost, it's really no contest. P3 over 75D all the way. I mean unless you ABSOLUTELY need the extra space because you are carrying stuff to capacity all the time, the P3 is just superior. Basically a higher performing car with far more range. Range is king in EV.

    If P3 and 100D were similar in price, I would always choose 100D.
     
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    #7 Bebop, Aug 6, 2018
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    I would probably try to go on a test ride.

    I do agree, I would rather get a P3D than a 75D Model S.
     
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    Would you get a BMW M3 or a 535i or 550i? Same question. Do you want a more performance car, or one you can fit more stuff in.
     
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    Would you like a 911 or an Escalade?
     
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    I agree heartily: Range is king. After you drive a while (150,000 Tesla miles in 6 years), you get it. But... the 100 D has a 335 mile range, which at the time beats the 3. It costs more, but you do get extra range and a higher level of luxury. Depends on what you want. I think most people would be satisfied with the three, but I will still probably upgrade my old S with a new one.

    I don't see why anyone would think the 3 and the 100D would or should be "similar in price," though. The 3 was designed to be half the cost of the S. As an owner of both, I see that difference. Of course, if they were the same price, one would be crazy not to take the better car.
     
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    I was debating this briefly and chose 100D - range, comfort, size. I've loved my P85D so why mess with it? But I can see both sides.
     
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    I'd be torn on this one too. For me:
    75D pluses: full hatch, sunroof (and can install roof racks), instrument cluster, more space.
    P3D pluses: Faster, much better on the track (permanent magnet motors don't overheat as quickly when pushed hard), more nimble, smaller, better range (which also means: faster supercharging). Coat hooks, door and seat pocket storage

    All things equal, I'd probably go for the P3D today. When I bought my 75D, I didn't have a choice ;-)
     
  13. whitex

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    Those who say range is king above all others, I assume you are all on the waiting list to trade-in your S/X/3 for the 500 mile Tesla semi? Without a loaded trailer, it will likely go even farther. ;)

    Range is always a nice to have, but not the top priority for everyone. Consider your driving needs, add some buffer, make a decision. I've been driving a Tesla since 2013 and range has only been an issue a handful of times, all of which would have required a 120KWhr or larger battery in order not to be an issue, and the majority happened when I had an S60 and superchargers were in their infancy (my 60 never saw a supercharger in the 2 years I owned it). I have taken my P85D coast-to-coast, and would do the same with an S75D (it actually has more rated range than P85D). Now, if I has to drive 200 miles every day, or drove long trips where there are no superchargers, 100 would definitely be on my priority list.
     
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    I cancelled my 3 reservation and bought an S in December because I just didn’t like the 3.
     
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    The point is they are really different cars - size, weight, materials (steel vs. aluminium), battery technology, etc. Comparing them purely on range (as a number of folks above seem to do when they say P3D over S75D but S100D over P3D) just seems silly.
     
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    I debated a similar thing. For me the S offers better cargo, so to make use of that in my situation I would have needed the 100d. Decided it wasn’t worth the premium over the 3 for a couple road trips per year. I also couldn’t bring myself to spend 95k on a car that will (should) be updated in the next couple years.
     
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  17. SeaDoc

    SeaDoc Tesla S 75Du & P3D+

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    I have a 75D since 12/16, and have been quite happy with the car. I had decided against the 3 until August 1, when free unlimited supercharging is now available for the Performance 3 version. I test drove the P3D+ and fell in love. Reminds me of my old Porsche 911 - 996 years ago. Agile, fun to drive and accelerates better than any car I've ever driven. If I didn't own the S, I would choose the P3D+ given the unlimited supercharging available for both cars and the amazing performance and handling. I won't get rid of my S though... It's like one of my kids... Tesla rocks...
     
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    Hey, yeah! Having driven a semi for a few years, I'd love to drive the Tesla Semi 500. Range is KING! :p
     
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    Performance aside.....

    I would love a 3 once they are available in my country, but I will now look for a second hand S instead. Reason is simply space. A key deal breaker on the 3 (for us) is lack of hatch back. So for example cannot transport our dog. I also question if the 3 could take the whole family on holiday, suitcases, kids stuff etc etc.
     
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    Surprised not more people but any emphasis on aesthetics. The S is still an amazing looking car, I love it and often look back at it after parking. The 3 just looks basic, nothing exciting about it. That would definitely go into my decision making process if I were e looking at both right now.
     
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