New Navigation Maps for Europe Rolling Out 2021.8

[Durzel]

I'll see your Prius and raise you Porsche being £300 and being updated once every 2 years if you were lucky, so were always wrong.

 

[Dilly]

I'll see your Prius and raise you Porsche being £300 and being updated once every 2 years if you were lucky, so were always wrong.

Ah, but. The Toyota salesman did say at the outset, don’t waste your money. Plus, even with a working map, the Nav lady was not for turning

 

[Eggerten]

Anyone noticing significant routing differences since the new update? I had a few odd ones since, but then yesterday I had a wft* one and mentioned it to my wife. Completely independently she said that she had had a few weird ones recently.

* Yesterday it wanted to take me by the slightly shorter, but much slower B382 (arrowed). The reality, I kept with the faster, quicker, slightly longer A3 and encountered no traffic. Took me about 17 minutes according to TeslaFi so no way that the suggested route was going to be any quicker on much less preferable roads.

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There are some navigation companies that currently try a different approach. Instead of suggesting to everyone the same, currently fastest streets, they shuffle routes a little bit to distribute traffic evenly instead of focusing it. The goal is that the navigation system not only re-routes you AFTER a traffic jam has occured, but actively tries to prevent traffic jams from even happening. So basically going from simple point-to-point navigation to complex traffic management.

This of course works best if as many people as possible use the same system. Tesla would have an advantage here, since they can "force" every user to use the same system.

So maybe they try to go in that direction too.

 

[MrBadger]

So maybe they try to go in that direction too.

The reroute is a B road, below left - it would only take a cyclist struggling to get up a hill to cause a traffic jam. The preferred route, below right, is effectively motorway standard.

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I think any system that thinks routing everyone up the B road to avoid creating a traffic jam on the A road is going to work is imho, rather flawed in its execution.

 

[Eggerten]

The reroute is a B road, below left - it would only take a cyclist struggling to get up a hill to cause a traffic jam. The preferred route, below right, is effectively motorway standard.

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I think any system that thinks routing everyone up the B road to avoid creating a traffic jam on the A road is going to work is imho, rather flawed in its execution.

You didn't get it. It's not about routing EVERYONE just to another road but to route SOME to other roads so traffic gets distributed more equally.

But as I said, that is just one possibility (that would be an interesting and intelligent new way for AIs to manage traffic in general instead of just routing), but another possibility is of course that the routing was just bad in that case

 

[MrBadger]

I did get it*. It takes just one cyclist/tractor/badly parked delivery van etc to cause a traffic jam for one car on that type of road.

I think rerouting was just bad.

* I actually worked on a system that did similar and could route traffic to reduce vehicle emissions in hot spots and divert them via routes where we modelled that there would be more headroom in the pollution.

 

[nrushforth]

Checked mine today and new maps have arrived. Not sure when but will be put to use this weekend as I make the drive from Edinburgh to Yorkshire. First long drive in our MIC 2021 SR+.

 

[RedMod3]

I'm on v10.2 2021.4.18.b9447274f1b4, but still with 2019.20-10482 maps

 

[Adopado]

I'm on v10.2 2021.4.18.b9447274f1b4, but still with 2019.20-10482 maps

I've said it a few times now ... there's never been a connection between the car software version and when you get a navigation maps update! If it's any consolation I am in the same boat ... as are many many others.

 

[MrBadger]

Not too much to feel you are missing out on. I've only noticed a few speed limit corrections - still noticing uncorrected ones that due to their location are not picked up with visual. Not sure if its recent software or navigation update, but I've started to see traffic lights visualised on some motorway overhead gantries - thankfully I've turned off the FSD stop line control function. I've also had the car travelling on a motorway but speed slowing as if it was on the adjacent off ramp - I think that one may be an existing bug as it occurred in very specific circumstances (was 'on NoA' that wanted to turn off but NoA was disabled due to poor weather so car didn't actually turn off) and when I did same section of road with NoA turned off, everything was fine.

 

[Dilly]

Not too much to feel you are missing out on. I've only noticed a few speed limit corrections - still noticing uncorrected ones that due to their location are not picked up with visual. Not sure if its recent software or navigation update, but I've started to see traffic lights visualised on some motorway overhead gantries - thankfully I've turned off the FSD stop line control function. I've also had the car travelling on a motorway but speed slowing as if it was on the adjacent off ramp - I think that one may be an existing bug as it occurred in very specific circumstances (was 'on NoA' that wanted to turn off but NoA was disabled due to poor weather so car didn't actually turn off) and when I did same section of road with NoA turned off, everything was fine.

I forgot that. The stop line got miffed today. It stopped a good 30 feet from the line and then gave me a warning and a red line when still 15 feet away!

 

[zanc]

Ah, but. The Toyota salesman did say at the outset, don’t waste your money. Plus, even with a working map, the Nav lady was not for turning

At least with the Prius and other non-Tesla vehicles you will have the option of Apple CarPlay and Android Auto.

 

[Dilly]

At least with the Prius and other non-Tesla vehicles you will have the option of Apple CarPlay and Android Auto.

Mine was too early a model but my Ioniq had them

 

[G4WFT]

I seem to remember from an earlier software release that there was going to be some additional visualisation of complex junctions once the new maps were available. Has this happened, or was it only for some overseas markets?

 

[Durzel]

Pretty sure that was just for China, for the moment at least.

 

[MrBadger]

No new visualisations with new nav - may only be Japan market so far

 

[G4WFT]

Thank you chaps. I had a feeling it was only for a limited market.

 

[Drew57]

I seem to remember from an earlier software release that there was going to be some additional visualisation of complex junctions once the new maps were available. Has this happened, or was it only for some overseas markets?

No obvious changes in my car.

To be fair though, the new map has now made me anticipate 'minor updates & bug fixes' with a heightened level of excitement.

 

[Peter 224]

Checked mine today, June 2nd.
The car tells me that v10.2 (2021.4.18 b9447274f1b4) is installed and the software is up to date.
Not sure if I'll notice anything...or should I?

 

[twlr]

Not sure if it's the map or software update, or maybe I just haven't noticed it before, but when I'm not navigating the map feels very zoomed in and doesn't show much wider context