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New S: Yoke or Nope?
- Thread starter MarcG
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https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/716729420078133248?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^716729420078133248|twgr^|twcon^s1_
That's someone asking 5 years ago for pretty much exactly what we ended up getting. I remember there were renders of a yoke that were flying around, but they ended up settling on the round wheel. Fast forward to the Roadster 2 reveal, and they show a yoke steering wheel in there (although that hasn't seen production yet, and concept cars tend to show many features that don't make it to production). Then we see it on the 2021 S - it would seem it's been a long time coming.
I do hope they give people the option as it is a bit polarizing, and I really think they will, as my preorder had an option listed for "Yoke Steering", despite there not being an option I saw to change it to otherwise. Honestly though, if I'm getting "the quickest production car ever", that's pretty exotic, and just maybe the car should be a little exotic to show that... (yes, I did choose Yoke)
Regular wheel but I'd still get it if they put in the yoke. However, I'd imagine that most Model S and X owners would be repelled by the yoke (regardless of the results of this poll, because the average TMC user is more open to change than the average S/X owner), while very few if any would not buy the car because of a normal
Tesla wouldn't make a total interior redesign, an objectively well-designed one that has little to no resemblance to any of its other cars, put in new battery technology and introduce tons of new features on cars they plan on killing off. But yes, nobody asked for the yoke.
Tesla wouldn't make a total interior redesign, an objectively well-designed one that has little to no resemblance to any of its other cars, put in new battery technology and introduce tons of new features on cars they plan on killing off. But yes, nobody asked for the yoke.
Uncle Paul
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I may have missed something, but what are the safety benefits? just curious
Uncle Paul
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Face will not hit the steering wheel rim in accident. Gives additional space for the airbag to cushion.
When autonomous driving gets here, the yoke can more easily be recessed into the dash.
This is something that has been on airplanes and performance boats for years. Gives far better visuals for the instruments as well.
When autonomous driving gets here, the yoke can more easily be recessed into the dash.
This is something that has been on airplanes and performance boats for years. Gives far better visuals for the instruments as well.
agreed...but I hope there won't be any snapped neck because of no rim on the wheel
Uncle Paul
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No snapped neck. Huge comfy airbag in the center of the Yoke 
All these details will be coming out slowly. Expect a more formal reveal when cars are ready to be shipped.
Maybe not every option will be ready at the same time.
All these details will be coming out slowly. Expect a more formal reveal when cars are ready to be shipped.
Maybe not every option will be ready at the same time.
TravelFree
Active Member
Well, either it is an option or not. Fact is there has been both yoke and wheel witnessed at Fremont in the shipping lot. It may be a state DOT decision.
I don't buy the face hitting the steering wheel as I wear a seatbelt and have an airbag. Find another excuse!
I only agree it is different, not necessarily better. Some people will like it because they can be seen as different.
Glad I don't need to be concerned about it.
I don't buy the face hitting the steering wheel as I wear a seatbelt and have an airbag. Find another excuse!
I only agree it is different, not necessarily better. Some people will like it because they can be seen as different.
Glad I don't need to be concerned about it.
on a separate note, while brilliant, sometimes Elon REALLY talks out of his behind..
On the most recent Rogan podcast interview, Elon stated that with "airbag tech today, seatbelts are useless/serve no purpose". (Hey Elon....there is still this thing called inertia and gravity and getting thrown from back seat to front or......)
But then, few mins later, he's able to spout off numbers off the top of his head around earths gravity, times of year to get to mars, co efficient tangents, complex math equations..etc.
He's all OVER THE PLACE.
On the most recent Rogan podcast interview, Elon stated that with "airbag tech today, seatbelts are useless/serve no purpose". (Hey Elon....there is still this thing called inertia and gravity and getting thrown from back seat to front or......)
But then, few mins later, he's able to spout off numbers off the top of his head around earths gravity, times of year to get to mars, co efficient tangents, complex math equations..etc.
He's all OVER THE PLACE.
Looks like yoke is coming, I was not given a choice, just saw it on my order agreement.
whitex
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Let's see if the new and yoked Model S has seatbelts. With Elon's laser focus on profit, I could see 5 seatbelts per car to be a significant cost saving.
whitex
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Last night I was backing into a parking spot at a public parking. As I was backing in, the car in the next spot started backing out towards my car. Me hitting the horn quickly was the reason disaster was averted. If I had the yoke and had to look for the horn (steering wheel more than 90 turned while backing in), I'd be in Tesla repair hell now.
I voted yoke, but I know that I am a creature of habit. Driving a right hand drive car in Ireland a couple of years ago I was comfortable shifting with my left hand, but I kept looking the wrong direction for the rear view mirror.
I remember in an interview, Elon was asked if they used focus groups like other automobile manufacturers. His answer was no, we just design what we like.
I remember in an interview, Elon was asked if they used focus groups like other automobile manufacturers. His answer was no, we just design what we like.
artsci
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I remember an adage that goes like this: Focus groups are to research as what bumper stickers are to philosophy. In other words, focus groups are garbage.
It’s great that Tesla designs what they like Instead of relying on focus group-based designs. The Pontiac Aztek (really ugly) was likely a focus-group design.
TravelFree
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If the excuse to having a yoke is because race cars have them then I say Yoke is fine for the Plaid+ But favor traditional wheel for the long range model. I have tested driving with the two hands at 9 and 3 o'clock for the yoke and while not as comfortable as a one hand at 6PM for AP driving, I'll lighten my objection to the Yoke but only for the Plaid+
I think focus groups can be of some benefit but not if the group is too small and if you let them dictate direction. I also don't favor being forced into accepting something just because a cult group accepts everything the cult god says to accept it. I remain happy I bought my Model S in 2020. Best car I ever owned! Tesla should give customers the option in the configuration.
I think focus groups can be of some benefit but not if the group is too small and if you let them dictate direction. I also don't favor being forced into accepting something just because a cult group accepts everything the cult god says to accept it. I remain happy I bought my Model S in 2020. Best car I ever owned! Tesla should give customers the option in the configuration.
46&2
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"... my right hand on the yoke, where it belongs, I'd have honked with a fingertip in an instant."
whitex
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Yea, I'd like to see you backing out (turned around), turning the steering wheel 180 degrees or more while your thumb never moves. Heck, put your right hand at 3pm position on the wheel, turn around so you are looking backwards, you probably can't even do 180 degrees without letting go of the steering wheel.
All that said, let's just give it a few months of people actually using it and see how they like it, and how many people will blame it for accidents. Personally, I plan to test drive the car to experience it for myself, but not holding on to much hope. But you never know, if I do fall in love with it, I might just pick me up a new Tesla instead of an eTron GT RS or a Taycan Cross Turismo (like I bought 2 Model S's while waiting for Model X, and then 2 more S's more because I thought they were awesome).
