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New Section of the Website? "Charging"

Discussion in 'Model S: Battery & Charging' started by Lyon, Jun 12, 2012.

  1. Lyon

    Lyon 2016 S P100DL, 2016 X P90D

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  2. Lyon

    Lyon 2016 S P100DL, 2016 X P90D

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    Definitely new. There's all sorts of new info.

    - iPhone and Android App to be released late this summer
    - guides for people to figure out which charger set-up they should get
    - installation guides for the HPC and for the mobile connector.
    - **SHOCKER** Solar City is their official partner for charger installations (bet they'll give you a quote for solar panels while they're at it!)
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  3. Norbert

    Norbert TSLA will win

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  4. widodh

    widodh Model S R231 EU

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    They've put the Range and Cost calculator online! Range and cost calculator

    Well, only the cost calculator... But still, nice page!
     
  5. Lyon

    Lyon 2016 S P100DL, 2016 X P90D

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    Alright, well you guys sift through it... I gotta go to bed. ;-)
     
  6. AndrewBissell

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    Looks nice but virtually un-useable on an iPhone as the page relentlessly jumps back to the top at every opportunity.
     
  7. artsci

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    The so-called installation guide for the HPWC provides no information that an electrician would need. That part is a disappointment.
     
  8. kevincwelch

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    Works all right on Android devices, but a little funky using the cost of charge calculator.

    Sent from my Nexus S 4G using Tapatalk 2
     
  9. Bardlebee

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    Says it will take 6 to 7 hours to recharge for traveling 40 miles? That doesn't seem right at all. That's for the 110v by the way. Maybe I am not understanding it correctly.
     
  10. bonnie

    bonnie Oil is for sissies.

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    It seems right. Using 110v is like trying to fill your gas tank with a drinking straw. Install a NEMA 14-50 (dryer outlet).
     
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    Ah! Good idea, I didn't think about that. I have very little experience with electronics, which is interesting because I work with computers. I will have to look into that, thank you.
     
  12. gg_got_a_tesla

    gg_got_a_tesla Model S: VIN P65513, Model 3 Res Holder

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    What a beautifully designed webpage!! Everything's explained well even for EV noobs.

    And, it's great that SolarCity can be called upon not just for HPWC installation but for a 14-50 outlet as well. SolarCity is well-acquainted with my home as they put a PV system in place here.
     
  13. AnOutsider

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    Well, now we know:

    • The app will be late summer (probably mid to late september I'm guessing)
    • the 60kwh model S need additional hardware or software to super charge
    • superchargers can refill 300 miles of range in an hour (schweet for road trips)
    • The touch screen will allow you to search for charging stations (assuming on the map)
     
  14. bonnie

    bonnie Oil is for sissies.

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    Bravo, Tesla! Nice page. (Of course we want more, more, MORE.) But really nice job. Easy to navigate, lots of info. Yay.
     
  15. kendallpb

    kendallpb Model S: P 8061

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    Thanks for posting this! Great stuff for a neophyte like me.

    The part about "don't use a supercharger all the time"...that's because it reduces battery life over time, more quickly than regular charging, right? Is there a way to throttle a supercharger back so it doesn't have this effect? I'm thinking of times I'll be on the road and need a quicker-than-120 charge, but don't need the 10x faster/top-it-off. Does anyone know if we'll be able to get a supercharger to give it to us more like a garden hose, not a fire hose (supercharger) or straw (110v)? Am I even making sense?

    Apparently electricity is more expensive in my area--a lot!--than the national average of 14 cents, or else I'm overinterpreting my bill--23 versus 14, or really 24 when I count the per-kwh taxes/fees (I'm guessing 14 is just the energy itself, for the national average figure they quote...?) So I think I'll cut my fuel costs roughly in half (maybe it'll be over half; I'm not sure what my MPG is on my current car, anyway...not great).

    Anyway, great stuff!
     
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    You should contact your utility company and ask if they have a Time of Use plan. Many do. It can have a huge affect on how much it costs to charge your car (assuming you charge at the right times). As an example: my flat-rate electricity cost is roughly $0.12/kWh, but if I switch to their Time of Use plan and charge my car at night, I will only pay about $0.05/kWh.

    As the new charging page mentions, you can even program Model S to not start charging until a certain time. This way, you can plug the car in right away when you get home, but it will wait until your lower-rate hours to start filling up your battery.
     
  17. Spurkey

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    I caught that too, I wonder if that's because 'filling' the battery that fast generates more heat, heat being a known enemy to lengthy battery life? I also wonder if the Twin Chargers would suffer from this but obviously to a lesser degree?
     
  18. I hope the new Model S connector to Roadster connector will be available immediately. It would not be fun to have to use a Roadster HPC, UMC and concurrently also install a Model S HPC and UMC. All these charging stations will occupy a whole wall! Would be easier to just replace the roadster charging equipment with Model S equipment.
     
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    So they're partnered up with Solar City to do the EVSE/PV residential install, but what about us folks in states that are not serviced by Solar City? Will there be a list of approved electricians or should we just get on Angie's list?
     
  20. gjunky

    gjunky Waiting for the Model ☰

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    #20 gjunky, Jun 12, 2012
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    I think there is a bug in the calculator: Selected a distance (100 miles) and a single charger. The charging time cuts in half between the 240v-40a Nema 14-50 and the wall charger. This seems correct except that the wall charger with a single charger in the car is also rated at 240v-40a and should be taking the same amount of time. Both options correctly show 240v-40a. It is just that the charging time should be the same between them.

    Update: I was just contacted by Tesla and apparently they are looking into the issue.
     

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