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@justg0 -- did you get all the features you wanted? Also, IIRC, you ordered a 60D and this was a 75D -- is that the reason why it was discounted?

Yes, actually a bit more than I was looking for. They were willing to rollback the 75 to 60 and reduce the price by $8500. But they said their system then automatically removes the discount. So I had to choose between the two. I was anyway planning to upgrade my 60 to 75 next year, so made sense for me to take the discount and go with 75D.

OA? Ordering assistant? Do folks still have DS (Delivery Specialist)?
OA - Owner Advisor, I think. This is the person who helped me initially with the order, etc. She was actually very helpful and more responsive than my DS, who I maybe talked just once before delivery.
 
Don't pee on my leg and tell me its raining. I love my heavily discounted, brand new Model S. But I'm also not drunk on the Tesla kool-aide.

It's still amazing to me that so many of you seem to have direct knowledge of what Elon does, and doesn't, know about the intricate daily workings of Tesla Motors... Unless you're inside the "circle of trust" then you really have no idea what you're talking about much less make an acquisition like what some of you are making...

Believe it or not, most CEOs have zero idea what's going on at the daily operations level of the company, they simply have far too many other things to worry about. Combine Tesla with the other companies Elon is trying to manage, it's extremely plausible he simply wasn't fully aware of what was going on.

I don't know how many of you here own/run your own company nor do I know the size of said company, but I do know a few CEOs of some very large companies and I can guarantee you they don't know what's going on with any semblance of detail as it pertains to day to day operations. They rely on others within the organization to know that and relay problems and concerns back to them should they arise. Yet so many of you here seem to think Elon is highly plugged in (hehe) to every facet of the business... You simply have no way of knowing.

Last, but not least, accusing someone of drinking the kool-aid simply because they know how large corporations are ran and are providing highly plausible reasons for why you're wrong, is just unnecessary. I'm not drunk on any kool-aid, and I don't appreciate the accusation that I am. I just happen to be in a position which allows me to understand, at a detailed level, how CEOs manage large organizations. If you want to disagree with me, feel free, but personally insulting me isn't necessary at all.

Jeff
 
Elon Musk in June of 2016 when the SolarCity CEO asked for a discount: "Yeah absolutely. Go to TeslaMotor.com, buy the car online, and the price you see there is the family discount. Everyone gets a family discount."

About 45 days later, allegedly unknown to Elon Musk (lol), 95% of Tesla S's were being discounted $6,500-$10,500. Tesla's everyone-gets-the-same-price paradigm had been shattered to liquidate AP1.0 cars and hit a big Q3 number. Again, the founder of the company apparently learned this from his twitter feed two days before the end of the quarter.

Don't pee on my leg and tell me its raining. I love my heavily discounted, brand new Model S. But I'm also not drunk on the Tesla kool-aide.
Let's keep this in context. Inventory cars (including genuinely orphaned cars) had always had discounts and this can be found online. What happened in Q3 is that the employees had a lot of leeway in assigning what they classified as inventory (presuming the cars talked about here were not genuinely orphaned). They also offered additional negotiated discounts on top (including waiving certain fees), which Tesla was not supposed to be about (I believe this has been completely eliminated after Elon's message). The other thing they did was finalizing the "sale" without actually delivering the car.

Elon likes to micromanage sometimes, but I would presume he does not micromanage to the point that he would be aware of negotiated prices by low level customer reps. Elon issued a directive to push for great Q3 results, but I doubt he would issue something specific like this. And from what I can tell, the amount of factory vehicles that genuinely got a discount is relatively low (from the previous discussion, it seems the UK ones didn't actually get a discount, but rather the price increased for a new one because of Brexit).
 
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The most I've seen are the general inventory/CPO discounts. The best I've seen on a model I was personally interested in was 7k.

Nothing anywhere near the 25-40k people were reporting from last quarter. Probably because Tesla isn't trying to get rid of old faces to get them out of their stores.

If anyone has seen differently, I'd love to hear about it.