Yes, given that the car was a lease, the buyer insisted that he directly wanted to pay honda.. he made it sound like he was not sure of paying me directly.. Well it did not occur to me as an out of the ordinary request at the time.. he wanted to speak to honda and make sure he sent money directly to them..
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New Type of Car scam ! Gives the Scammer the car and its title !
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Yes, given that the car was a lease, the buyer insisted that he directly wanted to pay honda.. he made it sound like he was not sure of paying me directly.. Well it did not occur to me as an out of the ordinary request at the time.. he wanted to speak to honda and make sure he sent money directly to them..
I have since learnt that in the US, most lawyers like to be defense lawyers rather than represent plaintiff.. Also Defense lawyers have flat rate unlike the lawyers who represent plaintiff ! So if you did a crime get off by paying a flat rate! its funny..
i guess at the moment i am just angry at myself at being so stupid !
SageBrush
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That is not the point I am wondering about. DID the buyer's bank send funds to Honda ?
Sending a "sister," "brother," or other third-party to pick up goods also seems to be a red flag regarding transactions with strangers.
I am sorry this has happened to the OP, but thank him for the warning.
There is almost never a totally new scam, just variations of old ones. Victims release goods because they mistakenly assume checks have cleared hundreds of times per day.
DiamondHands
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Sorry you're going through this horrible experience.
I couldn't help but notice- you're a new member to the forum, having just joined today, and your first post was the one on this thread.
Why'd you pick this forum, Tesla Motors Club, to post of your ordeal? Have you also posted the same issue on other car forums?
Not that I question your narrative, just wondering that's all
Anyway, thanks for being a good samaritan, and I hope the authorities can get you justice
I couldn't help but notice- you're a new member to the forum, having just joined today, and your first post was the one on this thread.
Why'd you pick this forum, Tesla Motors Club, to post of your ordeal? Have you also posted the same issue on other car forums?
Not that I question your narrative, just wondering that's all
Anyway, thanks for being a good samaritan, and I hope the authorities can get you justice
Sorry you're going through this horrible experience.
I couldn't help but notice- you're a new member to the forum, having just joined today, and your first post was the one on this thread.
Why'd you pick this forum, Tesla Motors Club, to post of your ordeal? Have you also posted the same issue on other car forums?
Not that I question your narrative, just wondering that's all
Anyway, thanks for being a good samaritan, and I hope the authorities can get you justice
True ! I am new to this forum!
In a way this started with the lease transfer of a 2016 tesla 75D to me.. With that car in the driveway the Honda was no longer in use.. Yes, i posted this on Honda forum and here... I plan to post it on Edmunds and others too...
DiamondHands
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Welcome to the fam- again- really hope the authorities can get you justice.
What Honda tells me that he told his bank to stop payment.. sorry if i am not answering your question correctly
SageBrush
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Then I don't understand how the 'sister' showed up with a letter from the buyer's bank documenting that funds were transferred
SageBrush
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Buyer identification does not seem to be much of a challenge, since his bank was involved. Twice
The more I think about this story, the less it makes sense to me, let alone as a smart scam.
The more I think about this story, the less it makes sense to me, let alone as a smart scam.
Canuck
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Read your homeowner personal insurance policy and see if it covers you for theft by fraud. Some do.
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jcaspar
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don't get me started....., did you know if you bank account it electronically hacked and someone wired out all your funds the bank has zero liability?
lesson learned.... I have always overlapped the lapse of my insurance but never imagined this scenario.
I sold a car privately once, the buyer insisted he pay the lien holder directly for the payoff balance. Luckily he did. He also gave me a bankers check for my equity, which I went to the bank with him to deposit right away. I guess if he did not payoff the balance I could have been left with the bill.
So to be safe payoff with a loan, get the title in hand and then sell. But only accept bankers (certified) checks. The bank takes the money first before they issue a bankers check. I believe this is not reversible later on but I may be wrong.
AMPd
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I would not send in a single payment, Honda can come and try to repossess the vehicle that they no longer own since they released the title and you reported the sale to DMV.
The Bank letter is fake, i did not know of this till Honda came back to me with a payment returned.. I told them i have a bank letter.. I went to Bank of America and found out that the document was fake !
I wish i could do better in my narration.. I would also include more details of email addresses, name and phone numbers once the police office allows me to do so... if it helps you in any way .. I have posted this on the Honda Facebook site as well. you can track it there too..
I did not think of that till now.. Thank you, will do so right away ! that is some hope
Also that is what i believed and hence release the car after i got the title. Also would like to offer to you these messages i sent to Honda.
From Customer service i now learn, that once a customer request payoff and makes a payment instruction the process of title and letter generation is started.. no one at Honda waits for confirmation of payment.. this they tell me has never in the past been an issue.. 99.9% or payments go through.. I find it hard to digest, but i cant say anything to them..
