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New update 2021.44.25 adds customizable app launcher like Model S refresh plus other major upgrades to system.
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If you are going to compare software, you specifically are going to need to compare them with other people who have not updated their software since 2020.
KRG21
Member
I agree, My Y the auto wipers too frequently don't come on and I have two tap the stalk button, which when in a hurry I hit too hard and get more water. They also frequently come on at the wrong speed for the situation. At night I've had the wipers come on when there is no moisture. It's not that I can't work around those things, but I paid for those functions and others to work correctly.
luckyy
Member
2018 M3 AWD w/ HW3 just got 44.25 after having got 44.6 about 2 days ago. Nice update, muuuch better than the 2020 'xmas update'
smogne41
Active Member
For you personally, what does it make better or easier to do vs the previous UI (especially while driving)?
Darblish
Member
Nothing here (July 2021 vision-only Y), and nothing for the other vision-only owners in a Facebook group I’m in.
Anecdotes ≠ data, but after spending 3.5 months on the factory firmware with a 75mph autopilot speed limit, I’m less than enthusiastic about how Tesla deploys their updates.
Are we now unable to see all the time at a glance (on a card), the time, distance and average energy consumption on our current trip while driving? Are we now forced to open a window taking all the screen space and covering the map? If that's the case then it's a huge downgrade in my opinion. I use that feature all the time...
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Candleflame
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My car is updated. I'm going to have to give this update a thumbs down. That's given:
1. I really liked last year's UX update.
2. I was really looking forward to this update.
3. I felt the "firmware holdouts" from last year were being extremely picky.
My thoughts after about an hour:
1. I use the trip cards and tire pressure cards all the time. Unless I am missing something, the new locations for these are a real drag. It might be tolerable if you could swipe away the car menu and when you bring it back up again it is where you left it (ie, on the trip or tire pressure screen) .. but to aid in "quick controls", every time you access car menu it goes back to the first page of controls. Meaning you'll have to dig into submenus every time you want to look at items like the trip meters or tire pressure again.
2. I used to be able to have tire pressure, and consumption graphs up .. I could swipe the graph away and bring it back up quickly just by swiping up from the bottom of the screen. Now the "swipe up" always brings up climate control.
3. The customizable bottom bar is meh. I don't use 90% of the available options. They need to make more shortcut items available for that bar like the defroster buttons and wiper controls that used to be on the bar by default. Actually I think a lot of this update would be tolerable if you could add more to the bottom bar like direct to trip meter or tire pressure.
4. Someone suggested that the UX design is being influenced by FSD. To me it seems like other changes are being influenced by music streaming. I don't stream music from a service, I play one album or playlist at a time off of my phone. I used to be able to bring up the track list full screen and scroll through it to skip around but now all you get is this weird 1/3 screen with teh tracks displayed horizontally .. which is .. wtf. My attempts at changing the size of the music player screen only results in most of the player filling up with streaming suggestions instead of the full track list.
5. I expected the "super small" autopilot icon to be an exaggeration. It isn't. It is unreasonably small IMO.
6. You get a little contextual "button strip" when you use certain controls like your brights or the wipers, which is great but it is a little too small IMO. ie, the old wiper popup control had a decently large on/off button and speed controls, making it easier to hit while you are driving. But this new button strip is much smaller. it is almost too small to be safe and goes away too quickly.
7. I think the battery screen is much worse (because they had to cram it into the car control area). I liked the transparent car + battery setup from before but now they are cramming into such a small space they might as well not bother.
8. the prior design had different actions segmented into different shapes or types of controls, making them easy to identify without actually reading the label on the control. ie, just tapping the car it was easy and distinct to hit the "glovebox" button because it was off by itself at the bottom and looked different enough than anything near it. Or any given page might have a mix of different types of controls, easily providing visual separation between areas of interest. However, the first control screen you get now is just a mass of boxes. I feel like you have to scan and read for what you want to do now, like its just a spreadsheet of buttons.
I'm going to hold out hope that this will be a work in progress and they will make this more usable as time goes on and they get enough negative feedback. Its interesting, I've been through UX changes with phones, desktop OSs etc for decades and usually I just roll with it and its mostly positive. I really feel like this is the first of any of all that I have experienced that has too many steps backwards. I'll have to actually side with the "firmware holdouts" this time I guess..
1. I really liked last year's UX update.
2. I was really looking forward to this update.
3. I felt the "firmware holdouts" from last year were being extremely picky.
My thoughts after about an hour:
1. I use the trip cards and tire pressure cards all the time. Unless I am missing something, the new locations for these are a real drag. It might be tolerable if you could swipe away the car menu and when you bring it back up again it is where you left it (ie, on the trip or tire pressure screen) .. but to aid in "quick controls", every time you access car menu it goes back to the first page of controls. Meaning you'll have to dig into submenus every time you want to look at items like the trip meters or tire pressure again.
2. I used to be able to have tire pressure, and consumption graphs up .. I could swipe the graph away and bring it back up quickly just by swiping up from the bottom of the screen. Now the "swipe up" always brings up climate control.
3. The customizable bottom bar is meh. I don't use 90% of the available options. They need to make more shortcut items available for that bar like the defroster buttons and wiper controls that used to be on the bar by default. Actually I think a lot of this update would be tolerable if you could add more to the bottom bar like direct to trip meter or tire pressure.
4. Someone suggested that the UX design is being influenced by FSD. To me it seems like other changes are being influenced by music streaming. I don't stream music from a service, I play one album or playlist at a time off of my phone. I used to be able to bring up the track list full screen and scroll through it to skip around but now all you get is this weird 1/3 screen with teh tracks displayed horizontally .. which is .. wtf. My attempts at changing the size of the music player screen only results in most of the player filling up with streaming suggestions instead of the full track list.
5. I expected the "super small" autopilot icon to be an exaggeration. It isn't. It is unreasonably small IMO.
6. You get a little contextual "button strip" when you use certain controls like your brights or the wipers, which is great but it is a little too small IMO. ie, the old wiper popup control had a decently large on/off button and speed controls, making it easier to hit while you are driving. But this new button strip is much smaller. it is almost too small to be safe and goes away too quickly.
7. I think the battery screen is much worse (because they had to cram it into the car control area). I liked the transparent car + battery setup from before but now they are cramming into such a small space they might as well not bother.
8. the prior design had different actions segmented into different shapes or types of controls, making them easy to identify without actually reading the label on the control. ie, just tapping the car it was easy and distinct to hit the "glovebox" button because it was off by itself at the bottom and looked different enough than anything near it. Or any given page might have a mix of different types of controls, easily providing visual separation between areas of interest. However, the first control screen you get now is just a mass of boxes. I feel like you have to scan and read for what you want to do now, like its just a spreadsheet of buttons.
I'm going to hold out hope that this will be a work in progress and they will make this more usable as time goes on and they get enough negative feedback. Its interesting, I've been through UX changes with phones, desktop OSs etc for decades and usually I just roll with it and its mostly positive. I really feel like this is the first of any of all that I have experienced that has too many steps backwards. I'll have to actually side with the "firmware holdouts" this time I guess..
Candleflame
Active Member
my fears too.
I drive long distances through rural australia so for me the tripmeter being visible at all times to see consumption and how many kms i have done is almost essential;. I also need to see the map all the time as it gives you an idea re: road curvyness. i dont think i want to go into the menu everytime i want to see my current consumption...
smogne41
Active Member
Tesla received tones of feedback about last years update, but did nothing about any of it. I expect exactly the same this time around.
I assume there is no way to uninstall a software update. I'm on 44.6 and based on the reports so far, I'm going to stay here for a while.
For those who are visual, like me, and like charts, tables, and diagrams, I have been trying to keep up-to-speed on recent software downloads using the table in Post #1 here: Trying to Make Sense.... I started it in order to try to understand the whole Tesla software download thing, and why so many cars had different versions at any one time.
At some point (after the New Year) I'll probably have to stop updating the Table, as it is getting too big. Most of you probably already know about Not A Tesla App, right? Good source of up-to-date info about Tesla software and App updates. And there are the download sampling data (from subsets of Tesla cars whose owners subscribe to these aftermarket Tesla app services) performed by Teslafi and Teslascope.
At some point (after the New Year) I'll probably have to stop updating the Table, as it is getting too big. Most of you probably already know about Not A Tesla App, right? Good source of up-to-date info about Tesla software and App updates. And there are the download sampling data (from subsets of Tesla cars whose owners subscribe to these aftermarket Tesla app services) performed by Teslafi and Teslascope.
M109Rider
Active Member
Can’t satisfy everyone.
Tesla is pretty much the only auto maker that does listen; with the CEO talking requests over twitter, and implementing them.
When they don’t make all the changes requested, they get replies like yours.
They can’t win huh. …
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