Do your car show the next gen seats in front & "old" type rear on the order confirmation (PDF)?
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Next-gen REAR seats no longer available for new orders, please post feedback on yours
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Do your car show the next gen seats in front & "old" type rear on the order confirmation (PDF)?
jpet
Jan P.
My P85D (currently in production) will be delivered with front & back next gen seats. I received confirmation by phone from Tesla European HQ. In the "Model S Order Agreement" document (the one containing the full price and without pictures), there is no separation between front & back seats. It just says "Black New Gen Seats". In the "View Design" pdf, the one that is generated on the fly, I get the picture with the old type seats at the back. This is because, on the website, there is no longer a picture available with the next gen seats in the back. You should not worry about that if you have ordered next gen seats all the way.
As others have mentioned, the folding down height difference is quite small. For me having seats with the same "horizontal design and bolstering" front and back is much more important.
I got "the call" yesterday about the next-gen rear seats from Japanese SC.
DS says the rear seat angle when folded is less than 10 deg. So, my order was continued to the next-gen rear seats.
I took the order confirm PDF when I ordered at web. So, I can look the next-gen rear seats.
lolachampcar
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jpet
Jan P.
Thanks for the first hand confirmation. I am clueless as to why Tesla has decided to put 2 different seat designs (front vs back) in such a high-end car.
Must be a pending redesign and/or change of vendor. Cant think of another valid reason.
celter
Member
Exactly. That's the only time I will need to fold down the rear seats.NextGen rear seats fold down flat enough to throw in four tires mounted up on aftermarket rims
Jgdixon
Active Member
What about ingress/ egress sliding into the middle seat? I'm also concerned about people with a wider than normal 'beam' having to ride one of the bolsters. (Although some may like that :smile
lolachampcar
Well-Known Member
The bolsters are relatively small when compared with the front. I do not think there is going to be an ingress/egress issue but there is always a concern that someone wider than the bolster spacing may find them unacceptable.
Jgdixon
Active Member
So we had our club meeting tonight and did some direct comparisons of the next gen rear seats versus the newer old style rear seat.
I can say that they were more comfortable to sit on although I could see some larger people having issues with the bolsters.
There still was confusion about the headrests, the outboard headrests on the next gen almost touched the headliner but the old seats did not. The size looked the same so we were puzzled. I think the reason that happens is the next gen is on more of an angle. Can a couple of you check the angles of your seats? The middle headrests looked the same size but the next gen looked closer to the headliner too. This could impact on visibility.
I can say that they were more comfortable to sit on although I could see some larger people having issues with the bolsters.
There still was confusion about the headrests, the outboard headrests on the next gen almost touched the headliner but the old seats did not. The size looked the same so we were puzzled. I think the reason that happens is the next gen is on more of an angle. Can a couple of you check the angles of your seats? The middle headrests looked the same size but the next gen looked closer to the headliner too. This could impact on visibility.
It's not really an offer, he was merely pointing out that I could pay to upgrade if I wanted to. Sorry if my wording wasn't very clear.
Are the backs of the NG rear seats possibly taller than previous version so that the same size headrests go closer to the headliner?
Jaff
Active Member
We looked at two cars side by side last night at our club meeting...it is very difficult to tell, but, I understand that Tesla is saying that they are the same height...I did find the Next Gen rear seats more comfortable and better looking (my opinion)...
Add me to the list of customers that received the call asking if I wanted the next gen rear seats. I was called yesterday afternoon. I asked why some customers didn't like them and he said all complaints centered around how flat they fold. He said the head rests are the same height as the other seat options so that was not an issue with any customers.
FYI, I confirmed my order Jan. 13.
FYI, I confirmed my order Jan. 13.
Seems to me that Tesla had no idea how many people would order the next gen seats which is about 95% of P85D orders. Instead of admitting that they mishandled this assumption they are now falling back on this "seat laying flat problem" excuse that no one seems to have a problem with. They should really just admit whats going on and reduce the price of the nex gen seat package going forward, I'm sure no one would fault them if they did so, these things happen.
it sucks but it takes a long time to sell a used Tesla, the market isn't that strong right now. If you do not need the money quickly then sell it or self or trade it in if you do not want the hassle.
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