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Next Gen Seats - skin stretch driver seats

Discussion in 'Model S: Interior & Exterior' started by rmr, Oct 29, 2015.

  1. rmr

    rmr Member

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    Hi,

    I will visit Tesla today, but have anyone had a problem like this (look at pictures) with the side of the driver seats?

    The skin have stretched, and "hangs" in a "bow"

    I reckon this will be changed on warranty , but hopefully there is someone at the forum who had some similar issue?

    Tesla Model S 85D June 2015 , 7000 km , so it is almost new......

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  2. yobigd20

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    Let stretchgate begin...
     
  3. thegruf

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    nothing unusual here. Audis and other cars do this too.

    The trick is to do a little shimmy as you get into the seat so the side bolsters do not get dragged down on the outside of your legs.
     
  4. HankLloydRight

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    ...maybe so, but I agree, unsightly...
     
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    Welcome to leather.
     
  7. rmr

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    I dont think it is normal. Anyone else have experience with this? Please take pictures and add to this thread :)

    I have had many cars with leather , no one was like this , and they were many years old.
     
  8. HankLloydRight

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    Was your car delivered this way? If not, it's a just a factor of how you sit in the seat and get in and out of it pulling on the leather and causing the fold. I've seen it before. It's not a defect, I'd be surprised if Tesla replaces an entire seat because of a leather fold. But anything's possible.
     
  9. rmr

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    Hi,

    I think it was delivered like my front passenger seat ( look attatched picture) and developed to this over some time.

    Do anyone else have pivtures of their front driver seat?

    My front passenger seat , if you look closely you can see the same "bow" here , and I think this also will develop to the same as my driver seat over time.

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  10. BertL

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    My personal opinion is this will be considered normal wear. It is not unique to MS. I've seen similar wrinkling in multiple Lexus and BMW/MBZ with higher bolsters (some mfgrs call them "sports seats") from other owners.

    I've learned over the years that I need to lift my rear end up a bit as I get into the seats to reduce wrinkles on the lower and side bolsters. If you pay a lot of attention, I suspect you are moving that leather as you get in and get out, and you will increase the problem if you sort of keep your rear-end seated and pivot as you get in or out -- effectively sitting for a short time on that side bolster which pushes it down to form the curve you see.

    Also, if you are not hydrating the leather, it will age less gracefully over time and wrinkles like you are seeing will become exaggerated. Be sure you do a quick wipe down with a clean, damp cloth every time you wash your car. I do that, as well as keep my leather cleaned/conditioned. As gross as it sounds, leather is a natural product just like our skin. It needs a little maintenance and wrinkles will occur where constant movement occurs, but no matter what we do, our faces and skin will age with time -- so will leather seats, especially where movement occurs.

    In my personal situation, not having MS automatically move the seat back and forth as I enter and exit the vehicle -- like every other luxury brand has done that I've owned for years -- exacerbates the problem. So, I have set up another profile in my MS called Exit that has the seat way back and steering wheel retracted and fully up; When I park, I try to remember to change to the Exit profile, then use the techniques to keep my rear end off the bolsters I described above; Before I take off, I press my profile and the seat/steering wheel goes back. Having this extra room to get in and out has absolutely helped reduce the amount of stress I'm placing on my side bolsters, so hopefully they age as well as has been the case in my former rides...

    Good luck.
     
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    I agree this is normal wear, but the time to get to this wear stage is quite alarming. Kind of makes me wonder what it would look like couple years down the road. Similar seats in our past German cars would have similar wear only after years of use. Our 4 months old Next Gen seat is already looking like it's couple years old.
     
  12. rmr

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    Hi, thats why I dont mean it is normal wear , 4 months for god`s sake :( My Vw Tiguan wouldnt have come to this wear stage in 10 years. It is just not good enough! Anyone who can attatched pictures of their seats?
     
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    This seat will be replaced by Tesla after a long argument with them, but I am happy for the conclusion :)
     
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    Glad to hear things will work out. Thanks for reporting back.
     
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    Wow that's surprising!
     
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    Wow that took a long time for them to replace the seat.
     
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    Well, he did say it was a long argument!
     
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    At first I was wondering what the OP was talking about and it seemed minor. Then I realized what I thought was a natural tucked seam was actually the defect. Wow. Yeah, I would have griped very loudly about that. It's like yoga pants up a bu** cheek.
     

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