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Next Gen Seats

Discussion in 'Model 3' started by Pieter Knispel, Jun 29, 2016.

  1. Pieter Knispel

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    Hi All,

    Can any of the forum members here provide some insight into what exactly the 'next gen seats' entail? Is it just leather or is the structure/actual seat different between the stock, and next gen version.

    Any insight would be great! :)

    Thanks!
     
  2. JeffK

    JeffK Active Member

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    Do we have any idea if the Model 3 will come with the next gen seats or does this belong in the Model S section?

    They are structurally and aesthetically different. Many people find them more comfortable as well. There are many discussions on this topic from two years ago.

    Tesla Model S Sport Seats Revealed
     
  3. melindav

    melindav ☰ reserved

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    They are the current leather seats. They are more bolstered than the original leather or the textile seats. I believe for a while you could choose either for leather, but not not seeing that option now
     
  4. N5329K

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    The Gen 1 seats were inadequate (for me), and were one of the reasons why we didn't pursue a Model S. Doesn't take a lot of care and design to build a better seat, and I hope they do for the M3.
    Robin
     
  5. ecarfan

    ecarfan Well-Known Member

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    They are called "Next Gen" because they were an upgrade (better support and more comfortable according to most people) compared to the original S leather seats. After awhile Tesla stopped offering the original leather seat style so that now the only choices are the standard "textile" seats or the optional Next Gen seats.

    I have the original leather seats in my S and my wife and I think they are fine, but I have sat in the Next Gen seats and to me they are clearly better.

    I expect the 3 will have a similar seat choice: standard seats in some non-leather material and optional seats in leather with more support and controls.
     
  6. Pieter Knispel

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    Thanks all, appreciate the info and insight, thank you!
     
  7. 03DSG

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    When you go to the order page for the MS and toggle between the fabric and leather seats you can see a big difference in shape, size, headrest and boltering for them.

    When you do the same on the order page for the MX the seat, bolster, headrest ect remain identical. The only thing that changes is the insert from fabric to leather. The seat shape, size, headrest and bolstering is identical.

    At least on the MS for $2500 usd you get an entire seat upgrade. It appears on the MX that your paying $2500 just for the leather insert on the seating surface.
     
  8. arjay

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    FWIW, I sat in the MS "Next Gen" seat a couple of weeks ago to see what they were about, and for me the fit and feel is excellent. The leather smell was also magnifique. Admittedly both my wife and I are slim so the seats fit and supported perfectly.
     
  9. anilk

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    Received the 90D ten days ago and drove over 700 miles round trip. We had thought the new next gen seats were bolstered too high when we were ordering the car and had requested the older seats. Now I can confirm that the extra bolstering in the name of venting was just bad! I do not have a big seat bottom and I am not tall - and I was hurting in the right leg and back from the deep bolstering. It feels worse in auto-steer operation because your leg is less extended (not on the accelerator/brake) and is then feeling the right bolstering. For those taller and normal frame, this is a bad design. Otherwise we love our 2 Tesla's.
     
  10. Darryl

    Darryl ModelXTracker.com Co-Adm

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    You can either consider them an upgrade or downgrade. In my case I consider them a downgrade as they no longer offer the cooled seats with the new seat. As of a couple weeks ago they removed the cooled seats from the premium upgrade package. They are no longer available.

    I currently have a Model X P90DL which I am replacing with a Model X P100DL. have a bad back and have more problems with a seat which is too soft. The current seats on the Model X were perfect. We also live in Florida and the cool seats are a must.

    You would think if they were going to do away with the cooled seats from the premium option group they would reduce the cost. They didn't.
     
  11. brianman

    brianman Burrito Founder

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    1. We need a better name than "new next gen seats". I forgot what Tesla called them.
    2. The bolstering was not added for venting, it was added as part of "original" next gen seats. The bolstering is less in the ventilated seats, which is a very good thing for my passenger's comfort (and TBD whether it's worse for track action).
     

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