aesculus
Still Trying to Figure This All Out
Must have missed this somewhere. Is that only for AP2 cars?
What if you have AP1 (ie no additional cameras) and MCU1 and upgrade to MCU2?
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NHTSA asks Tesla to recall 158,000 [now 135,000] vehicles for eMMC failure. Voluntary Recall issued
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What if you have AP1 (ie no additional cameras) and MCU1 and upgrade to MCU2?
If the invoice doesn’t have a charge amount I would consider free or good will for some reason. If they want to charge you after work is complete ask them to take it out and replace with new daughterboard. That’s how I would tackle this situation.
whitex
Well-Known Member
Oh no, that opens the door to partial re-imbursement for tools. They will say, $200 tool, good for 100 MCU's at least, here is $2.Nope. In the same way that I don't have partial ownership of the tools at the Service Center despite the fact that my payments there offset a portion of their cost...
I'm in the same boat, I prefer they use the then current MCU repair price, or pay me per hour at their shop rate for all the hours I spent recovering the dang thing because they wouldn't make the images and tools available.
studioloft
Gavin
That was me. See post #405 in this tread where I elaborated a little bit more.
In short I have made 5 trips to my SC related to MCU failures. The latest visit was after the eMMC advisory and before the recall was announced. I eventually created a new service appointment for an MCU2 upgrade expecting to pay for it but to my surprise received a $0 estimate. There are a few key items to my situation:
- 5 visits and no repairs made - legal grounds for lemon law or small claims court. I made sure my SC was aware.
- I frequently mentioned in writing that I feel I can not "maintain a reasonable expectation of safety while driving my car"
- I directly asked my SC manager "yes or no, do you believe autopilot making maneuvers without auditory notifications to the driver is a valid safety concern?"
- I said "my legal council has requested you provide me with all invoices from all service visits"
My appointment is for this Monday. I have approved the $0 estimate in the app but lets see if that holds when I pick the car up.
Actually it isn't, at least not for the lemon law. It looks like the CT lemon law is only good for 2 years, of 24k miles, whichever comes first. (I would hope that Tesla knows that.)
FlatSix911
Porsche 918 Hybrid
Good luck... disabling live traffic does not help MCU1 performance.
FlatSix911
Porsche 918 Hybrid
Congratulations... it is a shame that Tesla has to be persuaded to do the right thing. Keep us posted on the outcome next week.
whitex
Well-Known Member
It used to when they had a traffic polling bug (some developer confused seconds and milliseconds and QA driving MCU2's didn't catch it, as MCU2 has some spare processing power at that time). That bug has long been fixed, now the slowness just comes from the fact that the software was built on towers of abstraction tested on MCU2. I am curious if MCU3 brings even more processing power to the table, if so, MCU2 owners will start seeing MCU2 start slowing down even more, as the new generation of Tesla infotainment utilizes the new found resources for cool 3D background animations, akin to MCU2 drawing the map in the background, even if it is all covered up except for tiny slivers around the foreground apps. All those people doing the upgrade to MCU2 will be screaming for MCU3 upgrade by v13.
Sounds like you already heard the Reddit rumors that the CPU might not change, just the distributed graphics processing (GPU) addition.
I am kind of surprised there isn’t a new automotive certified Intel Atom CPU as we are in the normal cycle for Intel to have updated that part. And surprised no mention in the update announcement about 5G, since Elon has spoken about 5G already publicly.
I wonder if the autopilot hardware is liquid cooled and in the same module like it is for the 3/Y? If so they. Old have one shared “back” part even though the new screen is bigger than the current 3/Y.
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Ok so someone might get a free upgrade. But for those who have to pay for the upgrade. Any words on the actual pricing? If it's free, I'm doing it. If it's $1500 WITH FM radio, I'll do the upgrade without thinking. If it's $2000 WITH the FM radio, I'll have to think about it. If it's anymore than $2000 WITH the FM radio, I'm out. Yes I do use my FM radio heavily so I would like it to migrate over. I have the MCU1 a 2016 90D and the screen is yellowing and leaking. But those issues I can overlook as I don't really use the screen for other than navigation which currently is fine.
$1500 without FM. Not confirmed yet, but if you wait until they contact you about the recall they plan to offer it for $1250
Tesla's notice mentions reimbursement but does that mean reimbursement only for money paid to Tesla for this repair?
What happens for people who pulled the MCU themselves and paid a third party to clone their eMMC chip to a larger one? I wouldn't mind getting my $$$ back for that.
What happens for people who pulled the MCU themselves and paid a third party to clone their eMMC chip to a larger one? I wouldn't mind getting my $$$ back for that.
Oh, so now I have to decide whether to keep my scheduled update for next week or wait for them to call me and save $200? Tesla makes decisions so difficult. Where did you hear this information?
That seems a little pessimistic.
I just dropped off my car at the sc for this upgrade. I asked them about this discount and they don't know anything about it.
It was from FB. He reprted the recall before it happened as well. The $250 he isnt positive of but said he thinks that is the plan for now
FlatSix911
Porsche 918 Hybrid
I'm afraid that if you read it on FB... then it must be true!
I hope your source is correct.I'm afraid that if you read it on FB... then it must be true!
Well he's been right about other things. But he is saying not to count it as a lock yet. I think they plan to offer it quietly under the table but would much prefer people pay the $1500
stopcrazypp
Well-Known Member
Personally I would not be optimistic for the latter point, but at the current moment, no one here would be able to give you anything but a guess, as the same notice says they won't announce reimbursement details until end of March.
aerodyne
2 of 3 EV's - Defect Free!
