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I don't believe a thing that Nikola says.
They're a scam. They announce products, produce an image, but have never come out with a single product.
I don't know why anybody gives them any publicity or credence.
They're a scam. They announce products, produce an image, but have never come out with a single product.
I don't know why anybody gives them any publicity or credence.
I only have one question.Where are you going to fill up with hydrogen?
jelloslug
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jelloslug
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ralph142
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Hydrogen is everywhere!
hmm, concentrate it out of the atmosphere as you travel? That sounds right.... lol.
JohnSnowNW
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Nikola Motors is a scam...everything makes sense once you acknowledge this.
Chuq
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I can't get my head around it. The point of a hybrid (typically petrol-electric) is that you can drive it like an electric, and when you are out of coverage of fast charging stations you can use the petrol engine. The benefit is the existing, ubiquitous filling station network.
So a hydrogen-electric hybrid, if you drive it out of coverage of fast chargers, chances are you're not going to find any hydrogen stations either.
So a hydrogen-electric hybrid, if you drive it out of coverage of fast chargers, chances are you're not going to find any hydrogen stations either.
What, you don't think Nikola is going to singlehandedly build a nation-wide chain of hydrogen filling stations and make hydrogen as ubiquitous as gas? /s
JohnSnowNW
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Well, Nikola claims they're going to build out 700 H2 stations across the country, with the capacity to fill their semis in 15 minutes.
Of course, this is presumably set to be funded with funny money, so it may take a while.
BluestarE3
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At the same places where all those Toyota Mirais fill up, of course! What a silly question.
BluestarE3
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At the same places where all those Toyota Mirais fill up, of course! What a silly question.
There are plenty of places to fill up in Norcal - aren't there?
Stations Map | California Fuel Cell Partnership
JohnSnowNW
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Depends on how the wind is blowing that day. The stations have terrible reliability.
For instance, this is a relatively new station...that appears to have been down for 3 weeks now:
San Francisco - Harrison St | Station Status
BluestarE3
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What is the availability outside the 600 mile radius of the Bay Area (the vehicle's range)? And if one only drives the vehicle locally (within range of available hydrogen stations), then why even bother with the added complexity and cost of the fuel cell range extender? Just recharge the vehicle at home, work or one of the myriad public EV charging stations.
So . . . a station being down would suck. I'm in Norcal - and 99% of my driving is within 600 miles (r/t) of a station. I'm surprised there's not one in or around Redding yet.
Batteries v Fuel Cell cars are in the VHS v Beta war . . . it will be interesting to see whether someone can come up with a more efficient way to produce hydrogen and make it more cost effective for the end user.
Batteries v Fuel Cell cars are in the VHS v Beta war . . . it will be interesting to see whether someone can come up with a more efficient way to produce hydrogen and make it more cost effective for the end user.
Stuart Watson
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Pretty excited about the court case !
Milton could go to prison for a very long time !
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