Canuck
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Until you own a Leaf and find out that barely any Nissan dealers want to even deal with you.
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Until you own a Leaf and find out that barely any Nissan dealers want to even deal with you.
"EV technology will continue to be at the heart of Nissan product development efforts"
Note he didn't say sales development efforts. Tesla's advantage in having it's own sales and service is underestimated. Nissan has to contend with dealers who won't even install CHAdeMO that Nissan would give them, and if they do some tell Leaf owners they can't use it if they didn't buy the car there.
True, but if the product is long range and the battery doesn't degrade under extreme temps like today, you shouldn't have to deal with the dealerships after you purchase the car. I don't see GM or Ford showing this much passion for sustainable transportation.
Not until they tell people it's time to flush their electrons every 3000 miles, or whatever.
Recently Nissan USA has an unusual track record of making production vehicles that are very very similar to the concept - the recent Murano and Maxima are perfect example of that. or even the Chinese spec Nissan Lannia
But this is Nissan Global - Japan
Yes it is the next generation LEAF, yes the silhouette of LEAF gen 2 will be very close to the IDS concept.
No, it won't have that glass roof as standard
No, it will not have suicide doors (thats a concept car trick to display the inside)
Yes it will have a very similar face
No it won't have those inside details
It may have swivel seats, Nissan already sells low to mid end models already with swivel seats in Japan.
Yes it has a 60kWh battery
The battery seems to same or very similar footprint to the current 24kWh/30kWh pack, but seems both thicker and less empty space.
Lots of cars have a very similar silhouette to the Tesla model X, the ford focus comes to my mind, the Toyota Prius goes to others. Size is different, but silhouette is very very close between Tesla and Ford focus, Toyota Prius
My expectation is that the LEAF gen 2 is released late 2017 as a 2018 model.
Image the IDS face grafted onto a Chinese spec Nissan Sentra (Lannia)
^^^Well, I hope you're right. If Nissan can deliver close to that, they are way ahead of my 2011 Leaf. Great specs. Hopefully, they will have a high-temperature stable battery. I've had about 20% degradation, even here in the inland PNW. Fortunately, for in-town driving, I can handle even 50% degradation. With a 200 mi battery, I could handle 80% degradation!
JRP3
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Pretty sure renim was referring to the Model X, as was stated in the sentence just before the one you quoted...
JRP3
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You are correct :redface:
In that case I'd say closer, but still quite different and I don't think anyone would confuse the two.
EVNow
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I expect Leaf Gen 2 to be very close to IDS concept on the outside. They will change some elements which may be expensive.
It will definitely NOT have sentra/Lannia face. Leaf doesn't need all that grill. IDS face doesn't look particularly expensive to make, so no reason that can't be kept. The kinds of things that will change are
- normal doors
- normal door handles
- normal side mirrors
- different wheels
If you go back and look at Leaf concept that was unveiled and the actual production car in 2010 - you have to be a Leaf expert to notice the differences.
It will definitely NOT have sentra/Lannia face. Leaf doesn't need all that grill. IDS face doesn't look particularly expensive to make, so no reason that can't be kept. The kinds of things that will change are
- normal doors
- normal door handles
- normal side mirrors
- different wheels
If you go back and look at Leaf concept that was unveiled and the actual production car in 2010 - you have to be a Leaf expert to notice the differences.
stopcrazypp
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I don't think that example works that well. The Leaf when it was unveiled was pretty much a production intent design, it was not the typical "concept" vehicles you see. This car however is very much concept.
JRP3
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I like the over all profile but many of the "nooks and crannies" need to go, and likely will. Also I don't expect the steering wheel to disappear into the dash :wink:
I can also look at Tesla and Toyota configurator
later I might also use an outline tool, but once you see, you can't unsee it
JRP3
Hyperactive Member
I see a completely different hood and windshield profile, and a fairly different back roof slope and rear end shape.
dhanson865
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I paid that much for a 2012 Leaf back in May 2015. If only I could have access to that sort of pricing in TN.
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