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I wouldn’t pay extra for it. I don’t find it makes a difference in my driving.Anyone have experience using tires filled with nitrogen to help stabilize pressures?
Recommended or not?
Thanks.
The shop I used charged $20 for nitrogen at install time and offered free fills. In the years I used it, I rarely needed to top off the tires.I think nitrogen works well. It will keep your tire pressure fairly consistent through temperature swings. The downside to me is that I always use an air compressor at home to top off my tires as they change. You can't do that with nitrogen tires, so you're now forced to take your car elsewhere to have it topped off. If you take it someplace anyway, it might be worth it if they're not gouging you on price.
The shop I used charged $20 for nitrogen at install time and offered free fills. In the years I used it, I rarely needed to top off the tires.
Issue is though, even with regular air losing a couple PSI on really cold days, they're back to full pressure within a few miles and adding air means you might end up over pressure at full temp on the highway.
In retrospect though, nitrogen might be more valuable on an EV since tire pressure has a significant impact on range and we're a lot more range conscious than an ICE.
I found it convenient for $20, especially since a full set of tires was costing me in excess of $1,600 anyway, it was a drop in the bucket and it definitely works.
Yeah, that's pretty dramatic, since a 10 PSI difference would typically be associated with a 100 degree fluctuation in tire temp. I didn't start using nitrogen until I moved here and it just doesn't get that cold.Sometimes when a cold front comes in, our tires can lose upwards of 10 PSI. It definitely doesn't come back after driving just a few miles. I know that I've definitely had to adjust for some of it and that the tires weren't getting over-inflated, but I see your point if it was only a 1 - 2 PSI drop.
Eventually, as one keeps topping off their tires, in theory only the larger molecules would remain.Costco says nitrogen is a larger molecule so it does not dissipate out of the tire as quickly. They don't charge for it so, there's nothing to sell.
I usually have used nitrogen, but mostly because I filled at FBO's where the nitrogen is used for aircraft tires. There is lots of documentation about the relative benefits. My personal view is that the major benefit for normal car tires is that the nitrogen fill is dry, while most air pumps are not dried. It is true that the molecule is bigger but air is mostly nitrogen anyway so that benefit is pretty small. Compression and expansion are reduced so there is measurably reduced temperature rise in the tires, so there will be measurably increased service life. The decreased compression does give a slight advantage in road hazard reduction too.
All those factors are measurable, but being measurable definitely does not confer the economic benefits to justify paying for nitrogen. I'd go out of my way for an FBO or Costco or some other free nitrogen, but I'd not pay extra for it. Tesla's making an economic decisions, were it to confer distinct justifiable value they'd use nitrogen.
Actually the reason for nitrogen is that airplanes began using magnesium wheels to save weight, but the technologies to reduce flammability were immature so wheels began to catch fire. Nitrogen is inert, so it replaced air and the firs stopped, more or less. Wheels soon improved but nitrogen stayed because of its' other attractive properties. There's a source somewhere for that but i don't recall where. Iearned it while working on my ATP.If cars had to play by airplane rules a Model 3 would cost more than a Model X does.