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No-confirmation NOAP is here for the masses!
- Thread starter MarcG
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Both per the official blog post:
“These new settings will be available to customers who have purchased Enhanced Autopilot or Full Self-Driving Capability.”
That's what it sounds like to me.
I wonder why they can't vibrate the steering wheel on AP 2 cars. We have the vibrating steering wheel if lane departure warning is enabled. Maybe this vibration is different?
woodisgood
Optimustic Pessimist
You can be lucky, some people even got upgraded from the recently released 8.4. Just keep connected to WiFi as much as possible, I guess.
Are you absolutely positive of that as it applies to the Model 3 only?
As in HW2.5 with MCU2 because that's the only thing currently applicable to Model 3 owners.
My understanding is on MCU2 that the rear camera feed is fed to it from the network. So I don't see any reason why the Model 3 can't display camera feeds from any of the cameras.
woodisgood
Optimustic Pessimist
Willing to bet you ain’t getting off that train anytime soon. The car that went from 7.11 to 8.5 on Teslafi was probably updated manually, ie sitting at a SC or something.
Of course I hope I’m wrong as I’d like disembark as well.
Plot twist: We aren't allowed to update until we go try the V3 charger.
woodisgood
Optimustic Pessimist
That would be cruel and unusual. It’s worth a shot. You’re volunteering to trek to Fremont?
Just tried it. Pretty flawless. It sped up and slowed down as needed.
I noticed that my last turn to get ready to get off the freeway, it showed it was going to turn maybe 1 1/2 miles before it did.
You do need to have your hand on the wheel when it makes the turn.
I noticed that my last turn to get ready to get off the freeway, it showed it was going to turn maybe 1 1/2 miles before it did.
You do need to have your hand on the wheel when it makes the turn.
woodisgood
Optimustic Pessimist
Just got an update! I only had to THREATEN to do it, I guess? Installing now
Realizing the task at hand is 99% of completing it. Or something.
Ok I just got firmware update 2019.8.5 and these new NOAP settings are here!
I took some screenshots of the release notes and settings, note that you have to disable lane change confirmation to get the lane change notification options:
I took some screenshots of the release notes and settings, note that you have to disable lane change confirmation to get the lane change notification options:
Why don't you just tap the "cancel" on the screen... that will delay the lane change for a bit
Installed 8.5 and took it for a test drive. I gotta admit it's pretty cool. Really the first time I actually felt like FSD (at least on the freeway) is in reach.
Some comments, tho:
1) As someone else already posted it chimes to tell you it wants to change lanes, then it waits a couple seconds and turns on the blinker, then you get the "put your hands on the wheel" notice and flashing blue until you put some torque on the wheel. Until you do it won't change lanes. This actually made me keep my hands on the wheel MORE than when I had to confirm the lane change with the stalk.
2) Lane changes, as in 8.4, are an adventure. Of about a dozen lane changes that it did, it hesitated and took multiple "attempts" before completing the change on like 5 of them. One time it started to change, came back into the lane, started again, came back into the lane, and by the time it tried the 3rd time someone was coming up so fast from behind in the target lane that I had to grab the wheel to stop it from cutting the guy off.
3) In my opinion it changes in front of someone in situations that I wouldn't. I feel it needs to use the rear-facing cameras more to make sure someone isn't approaching from behind in the lane it's switching to.
Anyway - VERY exciting to see the progress!
Some comments, tho:
1) As someone else already posted it chimes to tell you it wants to change lanes, then it waits a couple seconds and turns on the blinker, then you get the "put your hands on the wheel" notice and flashing blue until you put some torque on the wheel. Until you do it won't change lanes. This actually made me keep my hands on the wheel MORE than when I had to confirm the lane change with the stalk.
2) Lane changes, as in 8.4, are an adventure. Of about a dozen lane changes that it did, it hesitated and took multiple "attempts" before completing the change on like 5 of them. One time it started to change, came back into the lane, started again, came back into the lane, and by the time it tried the 3rd time someone was coming up so fast from behind in the target lane that I had to grab the wheel to stop it from cutting the guy off.
3) In my opinion it changes in front of someone in situations that I wouldn't. I feel it needs to use the rear-facing cameras more to make sure someone isn't approaching from behind in the lane it's switching to.
Anyway - VERY exciting to see the progress!
I see comments like this a lot... I use NoA every day on my 40 mi r/t commute in Los Angeles. Never once has it "tried to kill me" - does it sometimes decide to abort a lane change? Yes. Sometimes slow down to avoid merging traffic when I would have sped up to do so? Yes. Maybe zig, when I would have zagged? yes, but only when either is a perfectly acceptable path.
Does it try to drive into a wall? No. Another car? no. Off the road? no.
I'm not saying that the thing won't ever make a mistake that could result in a crash. I'm saying that I find it hard to believe it's actually doing so "on a daily basis"
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