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No free supercharging for CPO purchases after 12/31/2016?

Discussion in 'Model S: Ordering, Production, Delivery' started by carter_seattle, Dec 8, 2016.

  1. carter_seattle

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    I am on an email thread with a CPO specialist and I asked and she made an odd comment on needing to purchase before Dec 31 for free Supercharging. So I followed up:

    To which she replied:

    Is anyone hearing this? I'm frankly astonished, I thought the free Supercharging would transfer with the vehicle.
     
  2. bro1999

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    Makes sense. Why would used buyers get the benefit when new buyers won't?
     
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    I know it's amazing, but when I bought my Model S 85, you know what? There Were No Superchargers. Anywhere. So no free supercharging. Anywhere. Why would anyone buy an electric car unless it had free supercharging?? Beats me. I bought it because it was, and is, the most amazing car ever built. I charge in my garage every night, and once in a while I go on a trip, and once in a while I get a free charge at a supercharger. Which is worth about one eighth of the cost of a tank of gas. Even if they decide to make Teslas pay for power, it won't be any big deal. I fill up (300 miles) for about 8 or 9 bucks. (Or I would, if I paid for power now that my solar panels have paid off.)
     
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  4. carter_seattle

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    Adding new value after purchase is quite different than removing it. And if I buy a used Tesla in a private sale, I'd assume I would get free Supercharging. And if I didn't, then Tesla would be knocking down the resale value of every used vehicle or there, which sounds... bad?
     
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    Definitely makes sense for CPO cars not to have supercharging. However will create a very interesting used private market outside. May even see private party resales worth higher than CPO market.
     
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    There has been a lot of discussion on this subject here on the forum already. An announcement was made probably about 3 to 4 weeks ago now on the matter. Your specialist is telling the truth, after the 31st CPO's and New purchase will get 400 KWhr per year. Tesla has not stated what the charge will be after the 400 KWhr have been used. If you use the Superchargers for long distance trips it shouldn't really affect you.
     
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    If you buy new after Jan 1st you still get the equivalent of 1000 miles of SC free *every year*. Tesla wants folks to use the SC for vacations and long trips primarily and eliminating the "always free" SC option will keep the chronic abuse of SC use down and hopefully allow the long distance drivers to get to the chargers without a long wait time. Where I live, that won't be as much an issue as it is in heavily populated Tesla owner locations like California.
     
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    With Elon, there are no rules.
     
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    Interesting.

    I just asked this question when I ordered my car.

    The Tesla rep said the free Supercharger access is attached to the VEHICLE, and agreed that if I sold it the new buyer would get that access.

    But maybe he was wrong
    Or maybe CPO program nullifies that?
     
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    #11 brkaus, Dec 8, 2016
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    As the seller of the CPO, Tesla has the right to do whatever they want with the features on the car. They could buy them and resell without back seats if they like.

    If their goal is to thin the herd of unlimited supercharger users, it makes sense.

    Now I do think it would be an issue if they removed it from cars that are sold privately.

    But everything is speculative at this point, until something is published.
     
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    Tesla has not made any announcement about this issue yet after the blog post. On Nov 7th, 2016 in the blog post, Tesla said, "We will release the details of the program later this year". So, we should expect more details soon. My best guess is, cars sold privately will keep free supercharging but when you trade in, Tesla will remove supercharging before they sell it on. I wrote a few predictions here including this subject.
     
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  13. bro1999

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    Has anyone actually confirmed this? Getting pretty late in the game to not clarify this, Tesla!
     
  14. carter_seattle

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    Ok, I just called Tesla's 1-800
    number and confirmed that 2013-2016 CPOs are grandfathered into free Supercharging. The new policy only affects new vehicles ordered in 2017 which, obviously, won't include free Supercharging anymore.
     
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    I don't think they can afford not to transfer the benefit to buyers on private party sales. Even leaving aside the legal aspects, the most likely outcome of a policy that didn't transfer the free Supercharging is bootleg sales - sell the car and transfer the MyTesla account with it to hide the sale from Tesla and keep the Supercharging active.

    CPO is different, Tesla can do whatever they want there, though I'd really expected them to continue with unlimited Supercharging there, too, at least for a while.

    At some point it'd become awkward when half the CPO cars have it and half didn't, though, so maybe it makes sense to just chop it off now.
     
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    Any Tesla purchased from the day of inception to the 31st of this month will have free SCing for life. It is the car that gets it, not the owner, so CPO cars will be grandfathered into the program.
     
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    This should increase the value of our vehicles. Yay!!!!
     
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    While it makes more sense to just grandfather any CPO car made before December 31, 2016 (in order to avoid the awkward situation where a private party vehicle of the same vintage would have unlimited, while CPO doesn't), I agree Tesla can essentially do whatever they wanted with the CPO cars. One of the most common things is to activate all the software locked features (for example 40kWh to 60kWh with supercharging).
     
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    That's the same thing I was told when I inquired. I know mine is here...somewhere... It's supposed to be at the showroom.
     

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