The site seems to have been updated to remove any mention of radar. It lists vision and sonar only. The old autopilot website hasn't been updated yet. I wonder if this means that new vehicles won't include the radar hardware.
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The site seems to have been updated to remove any mention of radar. It lists vision and sonar only. The old autopilot website hasn't been updated yet. I wonder if this means that new vehicles won't include the radar hardware.
The site seems to have been updated to remove any mention of radar. It lists vision and sonar only. The old autopilot website hasn't been updated yet. I wonder if this means that new vehicles won't include the radar hardware.
When I go to the Model S order page and scroll down, it still mentions a front radar.
Check model 3 page and scroll down to Autopilot!
Technically, we don't know if the radar is still on the car, so we don't know how committed they are. Until we see a real customer car without the radar unit, we can't be sure what path they have taken. All this change is telling us is that they aren't guaranteeing a radar to be there like they previously advertised.If that's the case, then I am really excited to see what is coming. By not including the hardware, they have to be absolutely sure of themselves that Vision only will work.
+1, they also advertise the model 3 SR as having 6 speakers, heated front seats, no ambient lights, but sure enough the hardware for additional speakers, heated rear seats, and ambient lighting is there. Or at least was for a long time (not sure if they finally removed it)Technically, we don't know if the radar is still on the car, so we don't know how committed they are. Until we see a real customer car without the radar unit, we can't be sure what path they have taken. All this change is telling us is that they aren't guaranteeing a radar to be there like they previously advertised.
But how about automatic emergency braking — in a fog?
A forward-facing radar with enhanced processing provides additional data about the world on a redundant wavelength that is able to see through heavy rain, fog, dust and even the car ahead.
I sure hope AEB is not removed. That would seem like a step backward in safety when everyone including entry level cars have AEB...Interesting update. As part of the removal of radar from the Tesla website, they also changed the list of standard safety features. The removed Automatic Emergency Braking (AEB) and Forward Collision Warning (FCW). Wonder how related to not using radar this is, and what they will be doing for existing cars.
They also added the interesting language "The following standard safety features will continue to be active on all new cars" that sure makes it sound like the removal of radar also removes some other features.
Before:
Automatic Emergency Braking
Side Collision Warning
Front Collision Warning
Auto High Beams
After:
Side Collision Warning
Obstacle Aware Acceleration
Blind Spot Monitoring
Lane Departure Avoidance
Emergency Lane Departure Avoidance
And it's one of the things Euro NCAP uses as a primary measure of active safety features.I sure hope AEB is not removed. That would seem like a step backward in safety when everyone including entry level cars have AEB...
I don't even understand how TACC or FSD Beta would even be possible if the ability to brake quickly was removed.I sure hope AEB is not removed. That would seem like a step backward in safety when everyone including entry level cars have AEB...
This info is still listed on the Tesla website:I sure hope AEB is not removed. That would seem like a step backward in safety when everyone including entry level cars have AEB...
Good call. Really interesting that they removed it from the autopilot page. Only time will tell which one is accurate, both pages changed today.This info is still listed on the Tesla website:
No, you don't understand. They removed the following statement from the website that was there for the last 1677 days, which means it never existed and they don't owe it to anyone.