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Non teslas at tesla chargers

have you seen non teslas in SCs?


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Dangerous Fish

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Jul 21, 2016
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This happens a lot but it's not going to be such a laugh when they are blocking all available chargers and you have 2% charge left!
 

VanillaAir_UK

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Jun 17, 2019
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I assume that they are either being stupid or just trying to get a reaction?

Presumably, if the Zoe is fitted with CCS then they can plug into a Model 3 adapted SC but get no charge? Any indication to them that they are not charging - presumably their dashboard would tell them if they were sitting inside and I guess they were not. So would not do it again next time or so once they realise that superchargers are always "faulty". Im also guessing, no visual or audible warning from the supercharger that something is amiss - hopefully to get to use one for first time this Saturday!

I thought that I read about a small notch in the Supercharger CCS plug that would only mate with a Tesla CCS port? If so, how did they get it to fit?
 

Jason71

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May 8, 2019
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I assume that they are either being stupid or just trying to get a reaction?

Presumably, if the Zoe is fitted with CCS then they can plug into a Model 3 adapted SC but get no charge? Any indication to them that they are not charging - presumably their dashboard would tell them if they were sitting inside and I guess they were not. So would not do it again next time or so once they realise that superchargers are always "faulty". Im also guessing, no visual or audible warning from the supercharger that something is amiss - hopefully to get to use one for first time this Saturday!

I thought that I read about a small notch in the Supercharger CCS plug that would only mate with a Tesla CCS port? If so, how did they get it to fit?
There are videos of people trying to fill Teslas at a petrol station and ICE cars at an EV charger so on a scale of 1 - stupid this is barely a 5
 

WannabeOwner

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I thought that I read about a small notch in the Supercharger CCS plug that would only mate with a Tesla CCS port?

I thought it was the Type-2 plug that had a notch (to prevent Model-3 users plugging that in without realising that they need to use the CCS instead) ... but there have been threads here about new model-3 owners (seemingly) plugging in the Type-2 by mistake. Not sure if they were at a single-hose stall at the time ... and if the notch SHOULD [retrospectively] be on those, but is only on the Type-2 hose at the Dual-hose stalls ...

Hopefully someone can put me straight
 

arg

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I thought it was the Type-2 plug that had a notch

If you are talking about the triangular cutout above the central pin on the car-end connector (making it teardrop-shaped rather than round), my memory says that this is defined in the standards to mean that the car can accept Mode1 charging (ie. charging with a simple dumb cable, no EVSE). So a Mode1 cable would have a 13A plug one end and a special Type2 plug (with the extra triangular protrusion) the other, such that it won't fit cars that don't have the cut-out.

It's a mystery why Tesla did this - they've never advocated mode1 charging (and it's prohibited in the UK anyhow). It's not clear if a Model S would actually charge if you tried with just 230V and no pilot signal. Some people did speculate that this was with a view to making Supercharger cables not fit non-Tesla cars - but that soon proved to be false as the Superchargers don't have the special plugs, just standard Type2 dimensions (as we see with Range Rovers etc. plugged unhelpfully into Superchargers).

But maybe you are talking of some other notch, or my memory is faulty.
 

WannabeOwner

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@NorfolkMustard posted this in another thread 2 Newbie Questions

"[The Notch has] only been added to the bottom cable in dual-cable stalls. it's not there on the single cable stalls."

Images taken from one of Bjorn's (i.e. Norway) videos

Single cable stall
stall-classic-png.455089


dual-cable stall
stall-new-png.455090


So not going to help with trying to put a single-cable stall's plug into a regular Type-2 socket, but will help to stop anyone doing that at a dual-cable stall. So once all have been upgraded then "sorted" ?
 

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