DopeGhoti
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I don't have quite that much in my 'quiver' (which is what I'm calling that small recess on the left of the Trunk), but I do have the included 5-15, as well as 5-20 and 6-20.
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Not enough sales pressure?
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I haven't anything. I vaguely remember seeing it draw like 24/25 amps.. I thought the car pulled what ever amps it needed? Should I be limiting it to 24 if it's not?
I was told you order it after you take delivery, then they install it at your home. I guess tech support for HomeLink was killing them, so they want their tech to get it working. The service call is probably the $300 not the device.
I suppose I should apologize about the subject line. It was an attempt to be ironic. I actually did not mean that the sales person should have pressured my friend to buy those things, only that it might have been helpful to review a few things that many/some/most people find helpful. Just to avoid disappointment later.
As I think I mentioned, my friend found the whole buying process quite easy and refreshingly unpressured. I only meant to say that had I not been with him, he might well have assumed that some things which come with many cars in that price range also came with his new purchase.
I am quite eager to learn more about what kind of outlet I should have installed rather than the 14-50.
As I think I mentioned, my friend found the whole buying process quite easy and refreshingly unpressured. I only meant to say that had I not been with him, he might well have assumed that some things which come with many cars in that price range also came with his new purchase.
I am quite eager to learn more about what kind of outlet I should have installed rather than the 14-50.
I would rather go through the experience your friend had than sit in a dealership haggling over a few hundred $$.
I had to do this over the weekend and I hope to never have to go into a dealership to buy a car/truck again.
I had to do this over the weekend and I hope to never have to go into a dealership to buy a car/truck again.
Are they called Sales Advisors? If they are, then they should advise you on the accessories to make sure you have everything you need/want to get off to a good start with your large purchase.
Otherwise they are just order takers, which is a dirty term in the sales world.
Even websites these days are programmed to do a good job of advising you what you should buy along with your main purchase. So human sales reps should be able to do the same.
Otherwise they are just order takers, which is a dirty term in the sales world.
Even websites these days are programmed to do a good job of advising you what you should buy along with your main purchase. So human sales reps should be able to do the same.
Atari2600
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If your adapter converts to a 14-50 then it should think you have a 50 amp circuit which would cap the current to 40 amps. So yes set it to 24 amps manually. I have several other adapters the plug into a 14-50 50ft extension cable so I have 75ft length on my charger. The rule is rated amps x .8. So 30 amps x .8 = 24 amps.
That's the danger with connector converters, if you do it wrong you could do anything from trip a breaker to burn a house down and kill people.
You should buy a Telsa wall connector and have that hard wired in your garage. That is Telsa's preference (another way to make $) so makes sense to get rid of the free 14-50 connector.
Fastest charging speed, ability to talk to a 2nd unit when you get a 2nd Telsa, definitely the best looking option.
That also keeps your free Mobile Connector Kit in the car at all times for emergencies which is also I am sure recommended by Telsa.
Kilotango74
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Thats what the internet (and you) are for. I researched this car to death for over a year before i purchased. Watched every YouTube video multiple times, read this forum front to back. Besides every time i have bought a car, I knew more than they guy or gal trying to “sell” it to me.
Speaking of Sales pressure, a few years ago when I bought our Model X, our sales advisor actually talked me out of buying Wall Connector or extra UMC bundle. I didn't really know much about Tesla at the time and thought I would need to carry in the UMC in the car with me. He told me that I should just use the UMC for home charging and carry the J1772 adapter in the car for outside charging. Worked out great!
Uncle Paul
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Perhaps the failure here was with the OP, not Tesla.
His friend was a novice buyer. Did not know the first thing about buying a Tesla, but did a smart thing by having the OP, an experienced Tesla owner and Forum Member, come along to explain the Wonderful World of Tesla to her.
It was he that did not disclose the lack of a 14-50 plug. He should have gotten one before leaving the store if that was what she needed. He should have explained that they used to come with Homelink, but no more. Should have told her to bring along her garage door opener.
He should have showed her where the USB ports were located, and have her bring along her proper charging cords.
The buyer relied on the OP to lead her during delivery, but perhaps the failure was there.
It was not the duty of the delivery person to point out every charge made to her car, that was different from what the OP received.
This is, of course, tongue in cheek. Just points out that while Tesla did not explain all the changes, neither did the OP.
His friend was a novice buyer. Did not know the first thing about buying a Tesla, but did a smart thing by having the OP, an experienced Tesla owner and Forum Member, come along to explain the Wonderful World of Tesla to her.
It was he that did not disclose the lack of a 14-50 plug. He should have gotten one before leaving the store if that was what she needed. He should have explained that they used to come with Homelink, but no more. Should have told her to bring along her garage door opener.
He should have showed her where the USB ports were located, and have her bring along her proper charging cords.
The buyer relied on the OP to lead her during delivery, but perhaps the failure was there.
It was not the duty of the delivery person to point out every charge made to her car, that was different from what the OP received.
This is, of course, tongue in cheek. Just points out that while Tesla did not explain all the changes, neither did the OP.
I found the problem!
Exactly this! When I leased my two BMW i3 the sales rep didn't go out of their way to tell me the included charging cable is literally named "BMW Occasional Use Cable" (I'm not making this up) and that you absolutely should not rely on it because it's a low quality, barely adequate POS. They also didn't say "Hey unlike Telsa, the navigation maps in your car are going to go out of date really fast and by the way BMW charges a whopping $400 (!) for each map update twice a year that you must manually install via physical media if you actually want to rely on your navigation system."
It was 100% up to me to research and figure out these things on my own.
Huh? Doesn't every phone come with a USB cable to charge it? Why wouldn't you just use that in a Tesla, the same as you would in any other car? No one is required to use a cable that fits the specific dock in the Model 3 and I'm quite sure many don't and get along just fine!
As do all Teslas. If you want to compare with other electronics the direct comparison would be say an iPhone that bundles a USB-C adapter. And just like Tesla, Apple doesn't include any "extra" USB port adapters for charging iPhones and never have. You get the one default USB-A and if you prefer something else it's up to you. Similarily, Apple Store employee will not typically recommend add-ons unless you ask.
I do agree with the OP that the sales advisor could make some recommendations. I would just disagree that it's odd that they didn't or that they absolutely should do so. To me it feels more like a nice bonus if they made some recommendations.
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I think the big problem is the non standardization of these outlets.... Lets strip them all and make one outlet that works for everyone.
and call it lightning
en_passant
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I found the problem!
Exactly this! When I leased my two BMW i3 the sales rep didn't go out of their way to tell me the included charging cable is literally named "BMW Occasional Use Cable" (I'm not making this up) and that you absolutely should not rely on it because it's a low quality, barely adequate POS. They also didn't say "Hey unlike Telsa, the navigation maps in your car are going to go out of date really fast and by the way BMW charges a whopping $400 (!) for each map update twice a year that you must manually install via physical media if you actually want to rely on your navigation system."
It was 100% up to me to research and figure out these things on my own.
I totally agree about BMW being misleading in the sales department. I was told wrong information buying my second one. I don't agree that this is a proper business model though, as I'm not buying a BMW this time.
Was I wrong to assume? Maybe, but the Tesla I bought is priced to compete with cars that come with this feature. Being forthcoming may not be the business model you agree with, but most customers really appreciate it.
This might help if anyone is still wondering about what type of socket that they have (or wish to have in their garage).
The size the outlet and the arrangement of pins is designed to insure that you can't insert a plug for a device into an outlet that will be hit with a higher voltage than expected or draw more current that the wiring behind the outlet can support. All good for avoiding fires.
I am not surprised that Tesla reps are not too informed and/or willing to offer opinions in this area. Lots of people are pretty clueless when it comes to electricity and this is high voltage/power. So they default to referring you an electrician.
All set with my NEMA 6-50 and the required Tesla adapter should show up in a day or two.
Now I just need a car!!
The size the outlet and the arrangement of pins is designed to insure that you can't insert a plug for a device into an outlet that will be hit with a higher voltage than expected or draw more current that the wiring behind the outlet can support. All good for avoiding fires.
I am not surprised that Tesla reps are not too informed and/or willing to offer opinions in this area. Lots of people are pretty clueless when it comes to electricity and this is high voltage/power. So they default to referring you an electrician.
All set with my NEMA 6-50 and the required Tesla adapter should show up in a day or two.
Now I just need a car!!
TimothyHW3
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Everything was included, in the order you mentioned, up until May of 2019. Mine came without usb and homelink even though it was produced in may. Thankfully charging cables were there and I managed to get one usb cable from Sec.
I purchased my Tesla from one person and then had another person for the pickup. Obviously the first person is a Sales Person and the person with whom I worked with on the pickup was a "Delivery Experience Specialist" (I had to look that up in my emails).
In my search, I found the email Tesla sent me after I ordered and one of the topics discussed in that email is charging:
In my search, I found the email Tesla sent me after I ordered and one of the topics discussed in that email is charging:
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