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Nothing very special about 0-60 times?

Discussion in 'Model 3' started by gowthamn, Jul 28, 2017.

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  1. gowthamn

    gowthamn Science

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    The 0-60 times are 5.6 and 5.1 seconds.

    For comparison in BMW 3 series:

    330i at $38750 has 0-60 at 5.5 sec
    340i at $47900 has 0-60 at 4.8 sec

    Is Tesla purposefully reducing acceleration to differentiate from Model S?
     
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    We don't know times for AWD or performance. Hopefully the latter is a significant bump.
     
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  3. gaswalla

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    yes.. these are the worst 0-60 times any Model 3 will ever have.. so, if it is important to you, probably safe to expect sub 4 in the future
     
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  4. juanmedina

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    I would say yes. Tesla is handicapping the model 3 performance.

    Hopefully since the model 3 is market for the masses aftermarket companies will hack the car and provide aftermarket performance flashing.
     
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  5. McRat

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    A 5.6 second EV in traffic or passing has similar performance to a 4.0 second ICE car.

    Here is an example of a slower EV (6.3s to 60mph):

    Bolt EV, passing 50-70mph : 3.5s
    340i, passing 50-70mph : 6.5s (manual)
    330i, passing 50-70mph : 4.4s (auto)

    Both Bimmers have much higher power to weight numbers (and pricing), but they don't have an EV's passing power, especially on mountain roads at altitude, or with heavy passenger loads, or quick response in traffic.
     
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    There is probably some safety margin built in at this point in time, to allow more testing and it's surely software limited. They could push a future OTA update to shave off a few 10ths.
     
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    Cmon posting standard BMW pricing is a joke and an improper comparison (had them for years...my last x5 cost was 30k higher than 'base'. They sell about one of these a year; the rest have 10k+ of premium package, technology package, etc
     
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  8. AZ-3

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    Totally disappointed in the advertised 0-60 times.
     
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  9. gowthamn

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    Nice to know. Where do I get details acceleration times between any 2 speeds for all cars?
     
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    Huh, passing times on auto reviews are virtually meaningless since they are top-gear passing numbers. I can assure you that at 50mph a 330i or 340i will pass much faster than a Bolt without question unless you are very dumb by keeping the car in 7th gear. Good ICE cars feel much more powerful at speed compared to EVs. Just drive two back to back and the difference is VERY easy to tell.
     
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    If it makes you feel any better... Once you buy your car Tesla might lower the price of it and give it a one second faster 0-60 time.
     
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    No ICE car has instant torque and that's a major differentiator. Your Model 3 will toast either of the BMWs off the line. My S is 5.5 0-60 and it's a very fun, fast car. Don't get hung up on 0-60 unless your planning on going to the race track. In real life we're racing from traffic signal to traffic signal and the Tesla's instant torque will win every time.
     
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    I don't think they the 0-60! Times are bad but I thought they were going to crush the bummer times.

    Maybe in the real world test it will be a little faster. At least is at fast as the, Honda type R, 2018 Subaru STi and the Golf R.
     
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    Don't be silly. 5.1 0-60 is more than enough for normal driving. Get an S if you want more.
     
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    To the OP, Elon previously said that the Model 3 is not a smaller Model S, from both a speed & accoutrement perspective...thus, not as many features as the S, and certainly not as quick. We'll have to wait and see what the performance specs are...
     
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    Not sure what you are saying here. Autos and DCTs instantly downshift, and you'd downshift in a manual. 60-130 is the standard metric.
     
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    I don't see an issue with the numbers. They are inline with their competitors from BMW, Audi, MB, Infiniti, etc. We do not know AWD or Performance numbers.

    Besides, I also ordered a 2018 STI 6MT (arrives August), so rowing my own gears and going 0-60 under 5 seconds will be a daily occurrence.
     
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    And a non-premium stereo is more than enough for most people. People will always want more/better. The S is a rather large car, so many might be compromising in order to get the acceleration they want. Also, people may be comparing performance per dollar in the overall auto industry.
     
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    How would you go about doing a proper, objective feature comparison between the 3 and its would-be competition?
     
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  20. gowthamn

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    Wher can I get the following acceleration times for various cars?
    0 - 30
    50 - 70
    40 - 50
     

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