Octopus Energy, including Intelligent and go

[Drew57]

It will recalculate. In fact, you'll often find that it will recalculate its original schedule two or even three times through the early evening, as mine did tonight.

I had three charging slots last night set when I got home after 23.00, enabled IO & plugged in.

All were within the 23.30-05.30 period but the first 30 minutes (commencing 02.30) only ran for 5 minutes & stopped then the other two ran to schedule until the car reached its desired SOC. Maybe IO continues recalculating through the night?

 

[Mrklaw]

You still get those declared slots as off peak? That’s my last question I think - how are you checking octopus stick to their end of the bargain? I had a slot that finished 7:30 this morning so don’t want to see a bull charging me 30p per unit because they forgot. Do they clearly show on the bill pages or are people taking screenshots of the planned schedule from the app and tallying at the end of the month?

 

[Tigermad]

Good morning all.

Owned up the towing hatch this morning to see what was behind it.

I coiuld not help myself and here are some pics to so there is bugger all there

Booked it in for the trailer add on with Crawley SC.

Wrong thread?

 

[Drew57]

I’ve never had any issue with billing, including with extra slots. The Octopus bill shows all half hour usage/cost if you need to check & in my case I can look at my solar inverter output which always tallies.

No need for screenshots, in my experience Octopus has always been accurate, fair and professional in their billing.

 

[kitenski]

I've had the smart charging off via my Octopus app, and the car has been sleeping absolutely as expected. I toggled it on and Teslamate is showing my car woke at 0935 and is still awake now at 1050! Is that what others see on IO?

 

[fancealot]

I've had the smart charging off via my Octopus app, and the car has been sleeping absolutely as expected. I toggled it on and Teslamate is showing my car woke at 0935 and is still awake now at 1050! Is that what others see on IO?

correct, thae car fails to sleep properly when IO is active

 

[kitenski]

correct, thae car fails to sleep properly when IO is active

So it keeps it awake 24x7, didn't think it'd be that bad! Will turn it off again then!

 

[fancealot]

I don't think there's an issue when it's plugged in ad left, it's just a current glitch with the API between octopus and Tesla.

 

[Tigermad]

Is intelligent all done via the normal octopus app now on IOS and no separate app is needed?

If so will the options appear to do the test charge once I move across with Octopus?

 

[kitenski]

Is intelligent all done via the normal octopus app now on IOS and no separate app is needed?

If so will the options appear to do the test charge once I move across with Octopus?

It was for me, didn't install anything extra and an extra icon magically appeared in their app.

 

[nufan]

you can even disable the intelligent part on the app.

(Quote from another thread - this one is more relevant for my question though)

Does this mean I can be on IO and stop Octopus scheduling my charging?

Do you lose the extra (otherwise normal-rate) slots at the cheap rate outside 2330-0530 as a result?

I tend to charge my car only on nights where electricity has a lower carbon intensity….and am wondering if this will give me a longer window on such nights to fill my boots (I’m on Go right now - and limiting to 4hrs means you miss out on the cleanest energy sometimes, when you actually have spare battery to take it/subsequent nights are dirtier).

Not so keen on supervising Octopus doing it though/the on-off HH pattern/keeping my car awake - happiest being in control myself (could be convinced I’m being a stick-in-the-mud on that though).

Hence asking about yessuz’s comment….if I disable the intelligent bit on the app with IO would I lose much? Does it invalidate the IO agreement? IO being Go rates with an off-peak window on steroids means it would win for me (manual dishwasher would be compatible), the extra slots would be a bonus.

 

[Drew57]

(Quote from another thread - this one is more relevant for my question though)

Does this mean I can be on IO and stop Octopus scheduling my charging?

Do you lose the extra (otherwise normal-rate) slots at the cheap rate outside 2330-0530 as a result?

I tend to charge my car only on nights where electricity has a lower carbon intensity….and am wondering if this will give me a longer window on such nights to fill my boots (I’m on Go right now - and limiting to 4hrs means you miss out on the cleanest energy sometimes, when you actually have spare battery to take it/subsequent nights are dirtier).

Not so keen on supervising Octopus doing it though/the on-off HH pattern/keeping my car awake - happiest being in control myself (could be convinced I’m being a stick-in-the-mud on that though).

Hence asking about yessuz’s comment….if I disable the intelligent bit on the app with IO would I lose much? Does it invalidate the IO agreement? IO being Go rates with an off-peak window on steroids means it would win for me (manual dishwasher would be compatible), the extra slots would be a bonus.

IO does not sound like an appropriate tariff for you based on the comments above, especially "happiest being in control myself".

The whole purpose is to allow Octopus to control when the car charges based on the most economic times to do so and often that is a series of variable short or longer time slots. IO is not designed to be used as an extended 6 hour 'Go' tariff by merely disabling the smart charging aspect which would fall outside of the intended terms of use. If we all do that I would expect Octopus to remove it either individually or entirely.

As for keeping the car awake, I don't notice any adverse issues during the nightly schedule period. Manually disabling IO between charging sessions also avoids this & it's a simple flick of a slider on the app.

 

[yessuz]

Does this mean I can be on IO and stop Octopus scheduling my charging?

Yes, in general. Not sure what consequences will be. Probably none.

Do you lose the extra (otherwise normal-rate) slots at the cheap rate outside 2330-0530 as a result?

Yes. Scheduling in IO is the hole purpose. 2 days ago I got some cheap rate blocks 9:30 - 10:00 and 10:10:30 for example, and then all the period between 23:30 - 5:30

I tend to charge my car only on nights where electricity has a lower carbon intensity….and am wondering if this will give me a longer window on such nights to fill my boots (I’m on Go right now - and limiting to 4hrs means you miss out on the cleanest energy sometimes, when you actually have spare battery to take it/subsequent nights are dirtier).

well, Sun shines during the day which is quite a chunk in UK generation... and wind usually is stronger during the day as well... and pump storage is actually pumping during the night, not releasing... just saying.

Not so keen on supervising Octopus doing it though/the on-off HH pattern/keeping my car awake - happiest being in control myself (could be convinced I’m being a stick-in-the-mud on that though).

well that's a bummer then.
what you CAN do - is to disable scheduling for whole day and enable before connecting car at home.

Hence asking about yessuz’s comment….if I disable the intelligent bit on the app with IO would I lose much? Does it invalidate the IO agreement? IO being Go rates with an off-peak window on steroids means it would win for me (manual dishwasher would be compatible), the extra slots would be a bonus.

it's grey zone, regarding TCs. it does not explicitly say that you MUST NOT disable scheduling.

 

[Mrklaw]

One of octopus’ aims is to reduce carbon intensity of their supply so they factor that in to when they schedule your charge

 

[Tigermad]

That’s a bummer. They have stopped Teslas joining for the moment. Should be back early next week.

 

[kitenski]

That’s a bummer. They have stopped Teslas joining for the moment. Should be back early next week.

Thought it was only available to teslas?

 

[Tigermad]

Thought it was only available to teslas?

They have just opened it up to other cars the last few days.

 

[UrbanSplash]

So no access to Tesla and only for Jaguar Landrover now. I imagine they are inundated

 

[amcneil123]

Does anybody know why they aren't accepting Tesla's? I have literally just joined Octopus today and am on their very expensive standard tariff so obviously keen to move to a time of use tariff as quickly as possible. As I have a Tesla I thought IO would be perfect but now my plans are scuppered.

Is it better to move onto Octopus Go for the time being and then on to Intelligent Octopus when it becomes available again?

 

[Drew57]

I believe it is only suspended for a few days while Octopus sort out a some issues for new registrations.

Someone I know had this response from Octopus 3 days ago…..

There has been some errors in the background of the app recently, which we are currently working on fixing.

Due to this the Tesla has been removed from the app however you should be able to access and set this up early next week.