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Official EPA range is 257/250 for X90D/XP90D

Discussion in 'Model X' started by vigge50, Sep 26, 2015.

  1. vigge50

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    Interesting. Very small difference between the 90d and p90d. Also, 80a dual chargers
     
  3. CarlK

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    SP90D is the same as SP85D which obviously is wrong. Anyway there seems be about 15 miles hit from equivalent S configuration. I can live with that.
     
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    The S 90D models did not get recertified by the EPA, so they just list the 85D ranges.
     
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    If you look at the specs on fueleconomy.gov for the S and the X they list identical passenger and luggage volume numbers. I don't think they have all of the information yet about the X.
     
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    P90D and the P85D have the same range numbers. Something is not right.
     
  8. vigge50

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    EPA haven't test 90, 90D and P90D on Model S so they have give them the same number as 85, 85D and P85D.
     
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    What are these numbers in row "electric motor"? Under Model X P90D it says 193 front, 375 rear. The link is here.


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    OK, I found it. Those are maximum kW numbers for each motor. kW can be converted to hp. XP90D numbers are 193 kW and 375 kW on fueleconomy.gov website. When converted to horsepower that is 259 hp and 503 hp, exactly the same as Tesla's advertised numbers for XP90D. That means we now know X90D horsepower too. Here is a table when kW numbers on fueleconomy website are converted to horsepower.



    XP90DX90DSP90DS90D
    Front motor259 hp259 hp220 hp188 hp
    Rear motor503 hp259 hp469 hp188 hp

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    Nice job. It makes sense that the Model X 90D would use the same motors. The question in my mind is are they going to put these motors in the Model S?
    BTW, you can add #tab4 to your url to get it to automatically go to the spec tab.

    http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?action=sbs&id=36980&id=36979&id=36787&id=36786#tab4
     
  12. AnOutsider

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    I'm a little skeptical, but optimistic that the X numbers are right. I'll take performance if it only means 7 mile range loss over non-performance. I was picturing something closer to the S and losing 15+ miles. 7 miles is less than 4 minutes each way on a round trip.
     
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    Pretty compelling and illustrative for those times you're talking to an EV skeptic. Yeah, I've got almost 800 horsepower, all of its torque is available at all speed ranges. Oh, and by the way, get almost 90 miles per gallon equivalent.

    If this doesn't spell the eventual doom of ICE, I don't know what will.
     
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    It will probably depend on your driving style. P may be programmed to run like non-performance version when accelerating slowly and acceleration during EPA testing is standardized to 3 miles per second if I recall correctly (that's 0-30 in 10 seconds!).
     
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    Anyone else notice what's missing? No range numbers for the 70 kWh model X. Does this mean there won't be one? Or that it may be coming a little later?

    -CB
     
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    Official EPA range

    My guess is Tesla is months away from producing an X70D, but it will be produced.
     
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    518 HP !!!

    It will be interesting to see the acceleration numbers for X90D. 142 more horsepower than an S90D, might be faster.
     
  18. AnOutsider

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    Well that's what happened with the Model S 85 and P85. Both had the same range, it depended on how you drive. But with the 85D and P85D that changed since I guess the P motor was an energy hog? In any case, I thought that loss would follow over, but it's also possible that the PX90D is tested with the new torque sleep in place.
     
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    It's also possible that they won't make a X70D--that the plan is to have an X90D and later an X100D (or whatever the next size up will be). Or they could be taking a wait and see attitude.
     
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    Or maybe if it comes, it will be an X75D to account for the loss of range dues to weight vs. the S.
     

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