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Ontario Buyers: Green Plates vs Normal Plates

Green Plate vs Normal Plate

  • Green Plates

    Votes: 119 93.0%
  • Normal Plate

    Votes: 9 7.0%

  • Total voters
    128

wayner

Active Member
Oct 29, 2014
3,811
1,385
Toronto
I got a personalized plate (blue) because green plates do not have the option to be personalized. I drive about 3-5 times a week on the 404 HOV lanes. So far I have not gotten stopped by a cop, though I have not seen many cops monitoring the HOV lane during the times I was using it.

I find it unfair for there not to be a personalize option for green plates and if I ever get stopped I'll bring that up with the officer.
I am guessing that the reason for not allowing the personalized green plate is to have a redundancy - both the green colour of the lettering and the number starting with GV or VE. Sometimes it is hard to tell the colour, especially if you have plate covers on. So there is some logic to it.
 

mknox

Well-Known Member
Aug 7, 2012
10,103
1,866
Toronto, ON
Different prisoners? Maybe the Friday shift? ;-)

Do I get new green plates and lose my (relatively) early GVAC...

LOL... I would have had GVAA plates if Tesla didn't have my early 2013 S registered as a "6-cylinder gas" car in the MTO database. Drove it for a couple of years with plain old blue number plates. When I did finally get around to getting green plates, they were GVAH. Traded those plates in back in March 2018 for GVBB for my new X. I really don't care ;)
 
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X.l.r.8

Supporting Member
Feb 18, 2018
1,427
906
Toronto/Miami
As an add on, 2FAST4U would probably not be allowed. Anything that has anything to do with speed/speeding is not allowed. You shoud ask if you are even allowed to have the blue plate she wants. I am not allowed xlr8
 
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Monty

New Member
Oct 14, 2019
1
0
Kanata
I’m annoyed. I gave two vehicles with personalized plates. $1200 between them I really don’t want to give them up.

Don’t know why options are available. I’m also a Veteran, but can’t get a green Veteran plate either.

Surprised Doug Ford doesn’t see it as a way to get more of my money!
 

pcons

M3 AWD+
Jul 5, 2018
1,627
1,668
Burlington, Ontario, Canada
I’m annoyed. I gave two vehicles with personalized plates. $1200 between them I really don’t want to give them up.

Don’t know why options are available. I’m also a Veteran, but can’t get a green Veteran plate either.

Surprised Doug Ford doesn’t see it as a way to get more of my money!
I think it's mostly because personalized green plates would make it harder for police to identify those that have HOV access which is really the only perk left for green plates.

Seeing the colour of the plate especially at night would be difficult, but if they all start with GV or VE that makes it easier to identify if it is a green vehicle or not.

And I doubt ford is going to go out of his way to make things better for EV drivers. He screwed over everyone in Ontario (not just tesla owners). Now it's also been shown that his cancellation of cap and trade (which funded the ev rebates) was illegal. But the damage has already been done.
 

SilverGS

Active Member
Nov 3, 2016
1,442
745
Ontario
For some reason I always assumed it cost extra to get a green plate. Learned something new today. When I got my Model S 3 months ago, there wasn't any breakdown on how much the plate cost - I think it was $200, and I just assumed part of the $200 was the fee for a green plate and the rest for the sticker (9.5 months to my BDay next year).
 

wayner

Active Member
Oct 29, 2014
3,811
1,385
Toronto
Why should it be more to have green plates as we are making a sacrifice (paying big $$$ for our cars) to drive a vehicle that is far less detrimental on society due to lower pollution and CO2 emissions.
 

puzz1ed

Member
Aug 28, 2018
89
64
Markham, ON
Why should it be more to have green plates as we are making a sacrifice (paying big $$$ for our cars) to drive a vehicle that is far less detrimental on society due to lower pollution and CO2 emissions.
One reason could be no gas taxes being paid. Don't want to give anyone any ideas but with electrification, governments will be looking to recoup lost revenue.
 

ajdelange

Active Member
Dec 10, 2018
1,077
540
Virginia/Quebec
As a first time EV buyer, it seems obvious to go with the green plates, but from what I can tell, the benefits are not that significant;

Am I missing anything?

Free passage for your car on Quebec ferries. Apparently the operators cannot tell that your Tesla is electric by looking at it. It has to have green registration.
 

pcons

M3 AWD+
Jul 5, 2018
1,627
1,668
Burlington, Ontario, Canada
One reason could be no gas taxes being paid. Don't want to give anyone any ideas but with electrification, governments will be looking to recoup lost revenue.
The price for green plates is the same as non green. On the gas tax issue; using less gas means governments pay out less subsidies to the oil companies (at least thats my hope). The oil industry currently gets more subsidies per year than the entire world spends on heathcare. In the US they subsidize big oil to the tune of 10x what they fund education..... S-M-R-T!!!! :rolleyes:
 

bijan

Member
Aug 7, 2018
843
711
Oakville Ontario Canada
The price for green plates is the same as non green. On the gas tax issue; using less gas means governments pay out less subsidies to the oil companies (at least thats my hope). The oil industry currently gets more subsidies per year than the entire world spends on heathcare. In the US they subsidize big oil to the tune of 10x what they fund education..... S-M-R-T!!!! :rolleyes:

Yes but not always the same levels of government getting the gas taxes as are paying out the subsidies. I doubt Ontario which is getting the gas tax money where we live, is subsidizing the fossil fuel industry in Alberta.
 

martind3

Member
May 14, 2019
178
60
Ottawa
Yes but not always the same levels of government getting the gas taxes as are paying out the subsidies. I doubt Ontario which is getting the gas tax money where we live, is subsidizing the fossil fuel industry in Alberta.

Let's not give the Ontario government any ideas. It's bad enough Illinois tried to raise EV licensing to $1000 because they don't get the gas tax revenue. (I think they ended up at about $250).
 
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sakimano

Active Member
Mar 20, 2017
1,374
835
Ontario, Canada
LOL... I would have had GVAA plates if Tesla didn't have my early 2013 S registered as a "6-cylinder gas" car in the MTO database. Drove it for a couple of years with plain old blue number plates. When I did finally get around to getting green plates, they were GVAH. Traded those plates in back in March 2018 for GVBB for my new X. I really don't care ;)
I had GVAB191 plates on my first Tesla which was only put on the road in early 2017. The office I registered at was rural and they must have had those plates sitting unused for years. In fact I had to tell them I needed GV plates and they asked 6 employees before one knew where to find them. #smalltown
 

pcons

M3 AWD+
Jul 5, 2018
1,627
1,668
Burlington, Ontario, Canada
Yes but not always the same levels of government getting the gas taxes as are paying out the subsidies. I doubt Ontario which is getting the gas tax money where we live, is subsidizing the fossil fuel industry in Alberta.
Fair point. I realized after I posted that there were a fair bit of holes in the argument when you dig into the details. In the long run though I still hope its true that some of the money funneled to the big oil companies (who make crap-tonnes of profits) can be put towards more 'sustainable' initiatives like our heath, our kids, our planet....you know, the small stuff :)
 

Tony_YYZ

Tezler Guru
Apr 7, 2016
1,961
2,106
Caledon, ON Canada
For some reason I always assumed it cost extra to get a green plate. Learned something new today. When I got my Model S 3 months ago, there wasn't any breakdown on how much the plate cost - I think it was $200, and I just assumed part of the $200 was the fee for a green plate and the rest for the sticker (9.5 months to my BDay next year).
Tesla overcharged many ppl with the license fee. They are charging a flat $200 rather than the prorated amount you should be paying per your sticker renewal date.

Actually, I'd say they overcharged everyone.
 
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pcons

M3 AWD+
Jul 5, 2018
1,627
1,668
Burlington, Ontario, Canada
Tesla overcharged many ppl with the license fee. They are charging a flat $200 rather than the prorated amount you should be paying per your sticker renewal date.

Actually, I'd say they overcharged everyone.
yup, I discovered that when I traded in my plates that came with the car (wanted to keep my original early-ish green plate), and they charged me for a full year of 'license' despite my birthday being 3 months after pickup :confused: Its an extra source of revenue generation for them :)
 
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carcon27

New Member
Oct 22, 2019
2
1
Binbroo, Ontario Canada
A friend of mine just took delivery of their Model 3 SR plus. She ordered 2 days before me...and I'm still waiting for mine. LOL Weird. Anyways....Not sure if anyone here has experienced the same thing with their 2020 Model 3, but since it is not listed yet on the Ministry website for eligible vehicles (only shows 2018,2019 models)....Tesla was not able to get her a GREEN plate...and only a regular Blue plate. They told her that the website likely won't be updated until end of December. This is unreal. A major reason for her buying the vehicle was to use the HOV due to her commute. Now she can't even use it for the next 6 weeks! I'm assuming I'l be getting the same thing when my car is delivered. I will not be happy.
 

pcons

M3 AWD+
Jul 5, 2018
1,627
1,668
Burlington, Ontario, Canada
A friend of mine just took delivery of their Model 3 SR plus. She ordered 2 days before me...and I'm still waiting for mine. LOL Weird. Anyways....Not sure if anyone here has experienced the same thing with their 2020 Model 3, but since it is not listed yet on the Ministry website for eligible vehicles (only shows 2018,2019 models)....Tesla was not able to get her a GREEN plate...and only a regular Blue plate. They told her that the website likely won't be updated until end of December. This is unreal. A major reason for her buying the vehicle was to use the HOV due to her commute. Now she can't even use it for the next 6 weeks! I'm assuming I'l be getting the same thing when my car is delivered. I will not be happy.
Damn that sucks. I'd drive in it anyway and if you get a ticket explain it to the cop and maybe they'll let you off because you will get one you just aren't allowed to yet. Then worst case maybe fight it?

Up to you, but if it were me I'd be driving in the HOV in this situation 100%.
 

jc22zhao

Member
May 14, 2019
67
32
Toronto
Damn that sucks. I'd drive in it anyway and if you get a ticket explain it to the cop and maybe they'll let you off because you will get one you just aren't allowed to yet. Then worst case maybe fight it?

Up to you, but if it were me I'd be driving in the HOV in this situation 100%.
I drive on the HOV with my custom plate almost everyday :)
 

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