Who say's I need help? I get along perfectly with all my personalities. I just asked them and they all agree I am perfect in every way.
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Who say's I need help? I get along perfectly with all my personalities. I just asked them and they all agree I am perfect in every way.
I did. Twice so far. I was thinking of sending one a day. For sh!ts and giggles at this point. I don't see anything happening in our favour.
I'm not expecting any freebies from Tesla but I am expecting some communication to the effect of "Remember the $14k incentive we included in your order costing? It's no longer relevant." I haven't heard from them at all.
Having said that, if Tesla were to provide affected orders with some sort of gift in lieu of the government's discriminatory practices, the goodwill that would generate could be tremendous. They're already offering full refunds of deposits which is admirable. However, I want my car! Am I expecting Tesla to offer anything though? Absolutely not.
So after writing to the MPP's, the Ministry of Transportation, Consumers Ontario, I finally called the Ombudsman. I had an interesting conversation. I was first told I had to wait for a response from the Ministry before the Ombudsman could get involved, but after hanging up I received a call back 5 mins later where I was asked to send in the emails already sent to the Ministry of Transportation I suggest all those who are on the fence and pushing to be heard, send the email to the MTO and then call the Ombudsman.
I have included below the info:
Ministry of Transportation:
[email protected]
[email protected]
Ombudsman Tel No: 1800-263-1830
This is the email I sent to the Ministry of Transportation which someone else drafted here earlier. Please indicate in the subject heading of your email this is a time sensitive issue and to response at their earliest convenience. I also requested a confirmation of receipt.
Recently Premier Ford announced the cancellation of cap-and-trade, along with the green initiatives tied to it. Although I believe in climate change I understand that there are many ways to tackle this problem and Ontario’s Cap and Trade solution may not be the best of them. As such, my email today is not in protest to the cancellation of Cap and Trade and its associated green initiatives. Rather, it is in protest to the MANNER in which it is being cancelled, specifically in regards to the EHVIP program.
On July 11th, Premier Ford’s team announced the immediate cancellation of the program. The only way to still qualify for the rebate would be if one satisfied one of the following two conditions:
All I am asking is that Premier Ford extend to us, his constituents, the same consideration he is offering to businesses (i.e. the dealers); honour those orders that were placed prior to July 11th providing the vehicle is delivered, registered, and plated by September 10th. As it stands, it seems as though Premier Ford is intentionally targeting Tesla, but is really only hurting his people. We voted-in Premier Ford in good faith, so please don’t break faith with us now – wind down this program in an equitable manner.
I have included below the info:
Ministry of Transportation:
[email protected]
[email protected]
Ombudsman Tel No: 1800-263-1830
This is the email I sent to the Ministry of Transportation which someone else drafted here earlier. Please indicate in the subject heading of your email this is a time sensitive issue and to response at their earliest convenience. I also requested a confirmation of receipt.
Recently Premier Ford announced the cancellation of cap-and-trade, along with the green initiatives tied to it. Although I believe in climate change I understand that there are many ways to tackle this problem and Ontario’s Cap and Trade solution may not be the best of them. As such, my email today is not in protest to the cancellation of Cap and Trade and its associated green initiatives. Rather, it is in protest to the MANNER in which it is being cancelled, specifically in regards to the EHVIP program.
On July 11th, Premier Ford’s team announced the immediate cancellation of the program. The only way to still qualify for the rebate would be if one satisfied one of the following two conditions:
- Eligible vehicles that have been delivered to consumers, registered, and plated on or before July 11 will receive the incentive.
- Inventory that dealers have on lots or orders made by dealerships with manufacturers on or before July 11, will also be honoured for the incentive provided that the vehicle is delivered to consumers, registered, and plated by September 10.
All I am asking is that Premier Ford extend to us, his constituents, the same consideration he is offering to businesses (i.e. the dealers); honour those orders that were placed prior to July 11th providing the vehicle is delivered, registered, and plated by September 10th. As it stands, it seems as though Premier Ford is intentionally targeting Tesla, but is really only hurting his people. We voted-in Premier Ford in good faith, so please don’t break faith with us now – wind down this program in an equitable manner.
Tesla pulled mention of it from their website the day it was announced. They don’t have the manpower to call everyone, nor did everyone leave an email address for a mass email advisory. They rely on word of mouth, via sites like this one to disseminate information.
I disagree completely. Perhaps you're not aware as you're from Halifax, but when we placed our orders in Ontario, the incentive was part of the total cost calculation provided by Tesla on the ordering page. Removing mention of it on the web page when the rebate program was cancelled is to be expected. That doesn't change the fact that they advertised it when we placed our orders.
Second, your Tesla account uses your email address so they have it. I'm not sure how you log in to your account or received confirmation of your reservation and order. It's a $64k+ purchase. An email notification is the bare minimum I would expect for a ~20% increase in expected price, particularly if they've received non-published communication directly from the government.
With all due respect, I think it is you that hasn't put in the time researching the car before making a decision. I personally dug into and got a proper understanding of every potential concern I had prior to purchasing, and there was definitely a lot of sorting between fact and fiction with all the noise online. I even went as far as waiting in -27C winter weather in a parking lot at 3am on a weeknight to test drive You You Xue's early build that passed through, because I had to know.
Having owned the car for many weeks now, I can say the lack of key fob is one of my favourite features. I also love the front visibility with the removal of the gauges in front of the steering wheel. The only nitpick I would have is the lack of powered trunk liftgate.
I did full comparisons against the C Class and 3 Series (gas savings are real, comparable cost of ownership), and even just the objective factors stack heavily in favour of the Model 3 without rebate. Subjective factors and personal preference can override everything else of course.
Yeh not true, your whole user account is based around your email...
And you’re not a real company of you rely on blogs to contact your customers lol
I think it’s a good play to contact the ombudsman but I don’t find the letter, as written particularly persuasive. Just like the globe and the CBC articles. Yeah they sort of get there but aren’t compelling reads.
There’s a sledgehammer in this and no one is using it. It’s not a dealers vs consumer issue. It’s a consumer vs consumer issue.
Someone ordering a bolt on June 7 has until sept 10 to get the car and the rebate while a Tesla purchaser gets tough *sugar*. Both cars were on the list as advsertised by the government. That is not fair. Your neighbour gets the rebate and you don’t while the both of you ordered the same day from the same list.
That’s the issue. First paragraph worthy. In any article or letter.
I don’t mean to be critical and I think the effort is a wise move. I’d like to see someone scream it for once though and I’ve got no skin in this.
Urghhh, just came back from a trip and see my rebate is gone. The more frustrating thing is that I ORDERED in May in anticipation of this and I still got screwed over. I'm seeing all over the forum of people ordering in June or July and have gotten a delivery or VIN within weeks yet I'm still here without a VIN 2 months later.
Screw this, since I'm not getting a rebate, I'm gonna get a base Model 3 Performance instead.
Screw this, since I'm not getting a rebate, I'm gonna get a base Model 3 Performance instead.
Hopefully it was a good trip! Yeah, extra brutal for you with the May order and no VIN yet. Some of us are still fighting (see last ~50 pages of this thread). Good luck if you’re changing to the P3D! Sounds like an amazing car.
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