Moderator's Note: This thread is to discuss various opinions, philosophies, policies and practices related to Supercharging, with emphasis on Florida. Much of the posting here were snipped from the Anyone wondering about the 15 new superchargers in Florida? thread.
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The problem I find with the mentality of many Tesla owners is that they look at it through "Tesla Eyes". You should look at it from a ICE owners eyes. With an ICE, you can stop practically anywhere in this country and within 10mins or less be all set for another 300miles (give or take). If there is going to be more than 5 miles without a gas station they even place HUGE signs on the road warning motorists of this. This is how much range anxiety exists out there. The bridge from Tampa to St Pete even has a sign warning you that there is no gas available on the bridge. Really, there isn't a gas stop in the middle of a freaking bridge? They really need a sign for that?
If you're trying to move an ICE owner to an EV owner it needs to make sense. Getting them to accept they must stop for double or more the time to "top off" enough to get to their next charger is possible (but challenging) but if you also tell them they need to drive 10 or more miles out of their way that will likely result in them walking away. This is my point here. See below.
Jacksonville to Tampa is 224 miles via I-4. FYI, I can't make this distance in my Model X P100D unless I really baby it.
Adding a stop in Port Orange makes this trip 234 miles. A 10 mile diversion.
Adding a stop in Brandon makes this trip 231 miles. A 7 mile diversion (plus using an extra toll road).
If you were in an ICE car would you drive 7 or 10 miles out of your way for gas? No way.
If you were passing through Palatka and in need of a charge would you make a 50 mile side trip to Jacksonville? No.
This is why chargers need to be in high density Tesla owner areas as well in the not so often visited areas. People coming from an ICE need to feel warm and fuzzy about traveling distance. With chargers in remote areas this gives you this feeling. Do they need to be at the top of the priority list? No. But they need to be on the list. Besides the "how far does it go" and "how long does it take to charge" the question I most often I get is where are the chargers if I need to go to (insert wherever location here). Inevitably they come up with a destination where there isn't a charger within 100 miles and then they dismiss the whole idea.
As an owner of 2 Teslas I don't think they are absolutely needed and sorta agree with you. I accept that my travel will take longer and require diversions off my preferred route. But I (and most of us on here) are not the norm. This is why chargers need to be spread out more. The chargers at Yeehaw seem ridiculous to me. You have to exit the turnpike to use them and pay extra in tolls in the process. Stupid. I would never in a million years exit there to use them over the Fort Drum chargers.
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The problem I find with the mentality of many Tesla owners is that they look at it through "Tesla Eyes". You should look at it from a ICE owners eyes. With an ICE, you can stop practically anywhere in this country and within 10mins or less be all set for another 300miles (give or take). If there is going to be more than 5 miles without a gas station they even place HUGE signs on the road warning motorists of this. This is how much range anxiety exists out there. The bridge from Tampa to St Pete even has a sign warning you that there is no gas available on the bridge. Really, there isn't a gas stop in the middle of a freaking bridge? They really need a sign for that?
If you're trying to move an ICE owner to an EV owner it needs to make sense. Getting them to accept they must stop for double or more the time to "top off" enough to get to their next charger is possible (but challenging) but if you also tell them they need to drive 10 or more miles out of their way that will likely result in them walking away. This is my point here. See below.
Jacksonville to Tampa is 224 miles via I-4. FYI, I can't make this distance in my Model X P100D unless I really baby it.
Adding a stop in Port Orange makes this trip 234 miles. A 10 mile diversion.
Adding a stop in Brandon makes this trip 231 miles. A 7 mile diversion (plus using an extra toll road).
If you were in an ICE car would you drive 7 or 10 miles out of your way for gas? No way.
If you were passing through Palatka and in need of a charge would you make a 50 mile side trip to Jacksonville? No.
This is why chargers need to be in high density Tesla owner areas as well in the not so often visited areas. People coming from an ICE need to feel warm and fuzzy about traveling distance. With chargers in remote areas this gives you this feeling. Do they need to be at the top of the priority list? No. But they need to be on the list. Besides the "how far does it go" and "how long does it take to charge" the question I most often I get is where are the chargers if I need to go to (insert wherever location here). Inevitably they come up with a destination where there isn't a charger within 100 miles and then they dismiss the whole idea.
As an owner of 2 Teslas I don't think they are absolutely needed and sorta agree with you. I accept that my travel will take longer and require diversions off my preferred route. But I (and most of us on here) are not the norm. This is why chargers need to be spread out more. The chargers at Yeehaw seem ridiculous to me. You have to exit the turnpike to use them and pay extra in tolls in the process. Stupid. I would never in a million years exit there to use them over the Fort Drum chargers.
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