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order priority factors?

outie

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What if you become a Tesla owner (Model X) after reserving? Will Tesla consider the reservation as current owner?
 

zenmaster

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What if you become a Tesla owner (Model X) after reserving? Will Tesla consider the reservation as current owner?
lol and what if you move closer to the factory after reserving, etc.

Actually since Tesla needs to know car options to determine delivery priority, then it stands to reason that we get to choose options at some point before being invited to order. How is that supposed to work out.
 

Model 3

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Actually since Tesla needs to know car options to determine delivery priority, then it stands to reason that we get to choose options at some point before being invited to order.
No. I believe that you get to order your car - and pick options - based on region, employee/owner status and reservation time. The build-queue will be based on selected options and finalizing time for the order. Everything else will be "forgotten" at this point.
 

Skione65

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No. I believe that you get to order your car - and pick options - based on region, employee/owner status and reservation time. The build-queue will be based on selected options and finalizing time for the order. Everything else will be "forgotten" at this point.

^^^ This.......Agreed.

Ski
 

dsvick

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No. I believe that you get to order your car - and pick options - based on region, employee/owner status and reservation time. The build-queue will be based on selected options and finalizing time for the order. Everything else will be "forgotten" at this point.

Exactly right! Or, at least I'm pretty sure that this is exactly right.
 

Garlan Garner

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How about some real world facts before you call me wrong.
I gave Tesla $5000 for my RESERVATION over two years ago.
I committed my ORDER in early February 2016.

Communications with my Tesla Delivery Experience Specialist (DES) have consistently pushed my delivery date out further into the future with each conversation:

  • On April 15th I was told to "Prepare for Your Model X Delivery!”

  • On May 21st I was told that "Our 75kwh Model Xs (like yours) are estimated to begin production in June and July."

  • Recently my DES indicated "As far as the status of your order goes, Model Xs with 5 seat configurations (like yours), are set to be produced at the end of this year.”
I now have no confidence in anything that I am told by Tesla, Tweet, email or blog posts.
Oh no...that's terrible. I really feel bad for you.
 

Garlan Garner

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My understanding of the priority sequence is this

  1. Tesla employees
  2. SpaceX employees
  3. Current Tesla owners
  4. residents of US west coast
  5. Deliveries working their way east
I am not an employee, owner nor live on the west coast, but I did reserve in store at 10.30am on March 31. Based on the data gleaned from the 'hack' that allowed us to see our sequential reservation spot, I estimate myself to be ~25,000 in line. If Tesla is able to stick to their announced plan to deliver 100,000 Model 3s by EOY 2017, I think I'll get mine in Fall 2017.


The problem that I have is that I believe Tesla reads some of these posts.

I'm afraid that if I post my true opinion - it will affect my delivery ( delay my delivery ).

I will say this though.....
The main thing that I "now" feel bad about is waiting in line in the rain and the cold on 3/31 in Chicago. There seems to be no benefit to doing so. I believe the priority list from above has validity.
 

zenmaster

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No. I believe that you get to order your car - and pick options - based on region, employee/owner status and reservation time. The build-queue will be based on selected options and finalizing time for the order. Everything else will be "forgotten" at this point.
I agree that makes sense, but it's kind of strange that Tesla stated specifically "delivery priority". I'd think that ordering would be primary and delivery time would simply be inferred from that.
 

Boourns

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Mar 9, 2016
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What if you become a Tesla owner (Model X) after reserving? Will Tesla consider the reservation as current owner?

Yes. I reserved on 3/31 and bought a CPO in May. Both the CPO adviser and my DS said I'd jump in the queue to current owner status.
 

alseTrick

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May 17, 2016
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Yes. I reserved on 3/31 and bought a CPO in May. Both the CPO adviser and my DS said I'd jump in the queue to current owner status.

What if you buy an S or X in December '16, or March '17? At some point there will be a cutoff where being a current owner won't benefit the queue.
 

jkk_

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The problem that I have is that I believe Tesla reads some of these posts.

I'm afraid that if I post my true opinion - it will affect my delivery ( delay my delivery ).

I will say this though.....
The main thing that I "now" feel bad about is waiting in line in the rain and the cold on 3/31 in Chicago. There seems to be no benefit to doing so. I believe the priority list from above has validity.

I'd be interested in what you think, if you feel like it feel free to drop me a PM.

Edit: I don't work for Tesla ;)
 

Model 3

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I agree that makes sense, but it's kind of strange that Tesla stated specifically "delivery priority". I'd think that ordering would be primary and delivery time would simply be inferred from that.
Historically from the Model S and Model X we have seen - when ignoring the Signatures series - that they started to deliver "P" versions with biggest battery - and for X the "D". And moved down in configuration options from there. This time they have specifically stated that this is what they will do before anyone could reserve, so this has been known all the time and no-one can complain that their configuration gets a delayed delivery.
The exact weight they put on configurations, regions, reservation-time, finalize-time, owner-status etc. is unknown. All we know is that they do use this variables to determine the order- and/or production time. And I do believe that we that stood in line to reserve will get *some* priority over those that did not. But I will probably still get my more-or-less bare-bone delivered later then an owner with a maxed-out order who reserved on-line after the unveiling. And that is OK to me :)
 

dsvick

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I will say this though.....
The main thing that I "now" feel bad about is waiting in line in the rain and the cold on 3/31 in Chicago. There seems to be no benefit to doing so. I believe the priority list from above has validity.
I think that there may still be some benefit to have waited in line. People will be asked to configure based on "region" (whatever a region is) and by date of reservation. When they start asking people to configure they'll need to limit the number of people configuring to some manageable number. Since the 31st will, by far, have the most people there is every chance that those who reserved early will be asked to configure earlier.

Also, it may factor into deliveries too. There were probably a couple hundred people who waited in line at the Cleveland sales center on the 31st. Even if all of us got to configure our vehicles at the same time, there is no way they can deliver all them to the sales center at the same time, and no way the staff there could complete all of the sales and deliveries within a reasonable time even if they had all the cars there at once. So they'll want to space them out somewhat. Yes, there'll be some production scheduling based on options and grouping them to make production more efficient, but I'd bet there will be a couple of options selections that will end up being pretty popular. So, with all else being equal, they would fall back to time of reservation.

And even if all of the above is complete BS, at least we can say we waited in line, and, I'm pretty sure, we'll still get the extra "I waited in line" thank you.


This time they have specifically stated that this is what they will do before anyone could reserve, so this has been known all the time and no-one can complain that their configuration gets a delayed delivery.
I've heard, repeatedly, that they backed off of that statement although I've not seen an actual link to a tweet or anything official. Just thinking about it though I think you'll still get yours ahead of people that ordered even a day or two after you did. The MyTesla page says we'll be invited to configure based on reservation date. So if you configure a month before someone else your car will already be factored into the production schedule and you should have a rough date to expect it by. They won't be able to keep shifting those dates further and further out as they get additional configurations - the press would have a field day with that, not to mention the thousand of angry phone calls, emails, tweets, and facebook postings.

Of course all of this be me just trying to project my own hopes to make myself feel better :D
 

Model 3

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I've heard, repeatedly, that they backed off of that statement although I've not seen an actual link to a tweet or anything official.
Well, this is the first time I have heard about that. Until someone points me to a link with an official statement I will presume that they have not backed off on this.


The MyTesla page says we'll be invited to configure based on reservation date.
True (and region + owner-status I guess) - and that is what I was saying. They do not know my options until after I have finalized the order.


So if you configure a month before someone else your car will already be factored into the production schedule and you should have a rough date to expect it by. They won't be able to keep shifting those dates further and further out as they get additional configurations - the press would have a field day with that, not to mention the thousand of angry phone calls, emails, tweets, and facebook postings.
You have some points here. But they still have some options. They could say "Ok, this is a basic order, we add 2 month on the estimated production date" or they may say "Production of baseline battery pack will start at date X, and your delivery estimate is based on the queue of orders produced after this date" (this is what happened to thous who ordered TMS60 and 40 when they ramped up the initial production line for the Model S). And yes the threads here - and probably other places too - was red hot with people waiting for the TMS60 and TMS40 in the winter/early spring 2012/13. If I remember correct the ordinary TMS85 started production late 2012 - December? - and TMS60 in February 2013. TMS40 started production late April/May 2013 (well not actually 40kWh batteries, it was SW limited 60kWh packs). I will guess we will see something similar this time to.

Ps: I do not actually expect Tesla so *say* this, but I guess that this is something like how they will set up the production queues. And no, I have no idea of how much "low optioned car" will be delayed vs a maxed out car, any example delays in the text above is just that: an example.
 

Garlan Garner

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I have an idea.

What if the gift for waiting in line was the opportunity to come to the Gigafactory and work on our own cars. We could push the button on the paint robot or something.
That would be nice.

Or maybe we could get to see the prototypes early or something like that.

As many of you know...I'm really bored.

I've got nothing to do ...... and all day to do it.
 

dsvick

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Well, this is the first time I have heard about that. Until someone points me to a link with an official statement I will presume that they have not backed off on this.
I've looked, fairly often, and not found it. For now I'll hold on to it as wishful thinking.

You have some points here. But they still have some options. They could say "Ok, this is a basic order, we add 2 month on the estimated production date" or they may say "Production of baseline battery pack will start at date X, and your delivery estimate is based on the queue of orders produced after this date"
I'll thank you very much to not burst my optimism balloon :D

I have an idea.

What if the gift for waiting in line was the opportunity to come to the Gigafactory and work on our own cars. We could push the button on the paint robot or something.
That would be nice.
I thought they were being built at the regular factory in Freemont !?:confused:

I've got nothing to do ...... and all day to do it.
Good, go find the mythical quote/tweet/post where Elon says that they will not be basing deliveries on configured options...
 

melindav

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I think the idea of the Model 3 not being delivered based on higher options first came from speculation they would not want to be seen as having their $35k car costing $50k in reality, because that's all the public saw for the first 6 months. that and since there will not be signature models, which jumped to the front of the line for the prior models.
 

Garlan Garner

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I've looked, fairly often, and not found it. For now I'll hold on to it as wishful thinking.


I'll thank you very much to not burst my optimism balloon :D


I thought they were being built at the regular factory in Freemont !?:confused:


Good, go find the mythical quote/tweet/post where Elon says that they will not be basing deliveries on configured options...
What? I didn't say I wanted to do useless stuff.
 

tsla007

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May 6, 2016
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@elonmusk May 3
model 3 delivery order will not be option based like in the past. Too many orders to do it that way.

Sorry guys-your options won't put you in front of the delivery order.
 

Jayc

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@elonmusk May 3
model 3 delivery order will not be option based like in the past. Too many orders to do it that way.

Sorry guys-your options won't put you in front of the delivery order.

Interesting, was that a tweet from EM? I'm not complaining.
 

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