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Ordered my Model S! Opinions?

Discussion in 'Model S: Ordering, Production, Delivery' started by Pilot_51, Apr 16, 2014.

  1. Pilot_51

    Pilot_51 Member

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    #1 Pilot_51, Apr 16, 2014
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    I've been dreaming of owning a Tesla since before Roadster production over 6 years ago and saving up for a Model S for 20 months (since I got my job), and finally ordered my Model S on Monday! I originally had very strict intentions to wait until I could pay cash, but that would have taken at least until next winter and the stress of carpooling and being stuck at work for 10 hours was getting to be too much, so I decided to finance. It will be my first car and it will come with a lot of other firsts, like first time being in debt, first time (to my memory) making a single purchase over $1000 on anything other than TSLA stock, etc. That said, while I'm very excited about it, I'm also a bit nervous.

    Anyway, here's my order as it stands now:

    60 kWh
    Blue Metallic Paint
    All Glass Panoramic Roof
    19" Wheels
    Black Textile Seats
    Piano Black Décor (Unsure about this, see below. Edit: Decided to keep piano black.)
    Dual Chargers (Edit: Removed since it is unlikely to be needed.)
    Tech Package
    Smart Air Suspension
    Parking Sensors
    Fog Lamps
    Subzero Weather Package

    Regarding the decor, I chose piano black to save money and I thought it looked good. After some reading, I'm not sure about it because it is said to be a significant dust/fingerprint magnet, which is no surprise for such a plain glossy black. On the other hand, from what I've gathered in my research, the other decors seem a little fake. I'm not a fan of the wood, but am considering the carbon fiber, just not sure if it's worth $800 to not have to clean it as often. What are your opinions on the piano black and carbon fiber decors?

    I'm pretty much settled on all the other options, but I am interested to know any other thoughts about my choices. I'm not in a rush and the projected date of late June is a good time, just before my birthday, so I'll take the whole two weeks to let it all sink in.

    On another note, I don't seem to be able to set my signature, where I would put my Model S details as many others have done. Is that a newbie permission thing or am I not looking in the right place?
     
  2. Peter_M

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    Congratulations. You'll love it every minute you're in it. And the rest of the time, well, you'll wish you were driving. Great config. Do you plan to do any charging away from home, other than at superchargers? I'm asking 'cause you've got the 60kWh battery, which suggests not many long trips, and you've got dual chargers. You don't really need dual chargers for charging at home - 40A is plenty to charge up overnight. Where they are really nice to have is if you're charging at a level 2 charger on a trip. It can mean a one-hour stop instead of two. The only other case is if you do trips back-to-back, like go to work and then come home and want to charge up quickly for a trip that evening.

    I don't have the fog lights. Some people on TMC forums (and the Tesla guy selling us the car, actually) said they aren't great. Apparently they just don't cast much light. But this is not first-hand experience.

    I've got the piano black and it looks nice, but yes, it can show fingerprints and fine scratches. I'm not regretting my choice (keeping the $750) but the wood finishes look nice too and shouldn't show fingerprints as much. And remember that the piano black (or wood) trim areas are pretty small - the rest of the dash and displays can get dusty too. It comes down to personal taste, really.

    You should be able to set your signature after you're up to 6 forum posts.
     
  3. Jason S

    Jason S Model S Sig Perf (P85)

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    newbie permission thing

    I like the lacewood finish, personally.
     
  4. RavynArcadia

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    I got the carbon fiber. I'll let you know how it looks on friday. :)
     
  5. Pilot_51

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    I intend to use it only for my <50 mile round trip commute and other local errands at least until I have it paid off. After that, I'll be more open to taking long trips and would purchase the Supercharger capability before doing so if there are Superchargers along the way. I don't expect to be taking many long trips, 1 or 2 a year at most, but who knows, I might want to take more trips if it's so fun to drive. I decided on the dual chargers mainly because of the substantial cost of installing it afterwards and just in case I need to charge at a Level 2 charger. I was debating it before I decided to finance, but now with the flexibility of financing it seems to make more sense to have it factory installed.

    Good to know about the fog lights, I'll put that in the questionable category. Does anyone know if they can be installed later? If it's bad enough, maybe Tesla will improve it before long.

    Of the three wood decors, the lacewood is my favorite, so I could probably be convinced to go for that. I've actually been lacking resources for comparing the decors in the real world and the design studio isn't that great at showing detail, so any pictures or links you may have would help.
     
  6. Btrflyl8e

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    I thought I wanted the carbon fiber for my next Tesla (haha), until I drove a loaner with it. Turns out I made the right choice for me with the obeche gloss. Fingerprints are really not that big of an issue as you would think, the trim isn't really in high touch areas. I found I like the contrast of the glossy trim. Sadly though, I also drove a loaner with piano black and matching yacht floor, which I don't have. Well, after this Saturday I will have the obeche gloss yacht floor. Sigh. Stupid loaners.

    I have the 60 but dual chargers were an unnecessary expense for me. Few chargers in the wild around here over 40 amps, and my daily mileage is well within 60-70℅ of the cars range, being very generous to allow for some fun. Couple of hours on the 14-50 in the driveway and I'm ready for the next day. I've never regretted having the single charger in a year and nearly 16,000 miles.
     
  7. Canuck

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    If you drop air, dual chargers and fog lights, you can get an 85 for only $5,750 more. Just a thought.
     
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    that would be my preference too
     
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    You people are like crack dealers! He doesn't need an 85, and he's working with a budget. Based on his finances and his typical usage, a 60 with options is perfect. Sheesh!
     
  10. Jason S

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    Supercharger > dual chargers, imho. BUT I think it can be added on later via software? Try to confirm that -- if so, just drop the extra charger.

    I've used the fog lamps, but really don't consider fog lamps a requirement for any car or any area since they don't help visibility that much overall. They are nice if you have them, but you should consider how often you'd use them.

    Attached a couple photos so you can see the interior. With early Sig models the floor mats were unimpressive, so you'll see I have aftermarket mats. The current mats are pretty good though. Front w Burgundy ultimats.jpg lacewood 003.JPG lacewood 002.JPG
     
  11. dsm363

    dsm363 Roadster + Sig Model S

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    Agree with this.

    Even consider dropping the pano roof (which I like but don't open often) to get Supercharging and added range. There are many here also very happy with standard suspension too so one other item you might drop to afford extra range as range takes a 10-20% hit in the cold.

    Twin charger can always be added later but is much more expensive. You'll find Supercharger so much more useful that twin chargers for travel.
     
  12. ken830

    ken830 Model S (Res#P12,447)

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    I agree -- If you have 60kWh + some non-absolute-must-have-options, you may as well drop those options and try to get to an 85kWh. Not only will you have longer range, but better performance, better battery warranty, and Supercharging included. And Supercharging is much, much, much more useful than the twin chargers for nearly everyone. IMO, the tech package is about the only option you really need. Even the Blue paint looks so much like black, that you may as well go with black and save some bucks.
     
  13. Ugliest1

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    #13 Ugliest1, Apr 17, 2014
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    Certainly no lack of opinions! :)

    Your choices look very good to me. I have read in other threads that supercharger enabling is a software change, can be done later, and is only a phone call away to Tesla (plus, later, the fee).

    I'll chime in on my experience: I have the pano roof and therefore a) more headroom, b) glorious sun when the weather's nice. Also the pano roof is the only choice that allows roof racks if you are ever considering them. The drawback of the pano is, when it's open and the weather is REALLY nice, the sun can beat down pretty fierce and (for me) requires a ball cap so I'm not squinting. But, close the pano, and all the unwanted heat and light go away.

    The gloss black does show fingerprints but they seem to get put there far less than on the 17" screen LOL, and are wiped off very easily with the little cloth Tesla gives you.

    Air suspension Very High is absolutely great for steep driveways, or for when you just HAVE to pull in front-wise to a parking curb (saves scraping/ripping off the front bumper), or maybe even for driving in slightly deep snow (I haven't tried that yet). I haven't noticed the impact of the Low setting for highway driving, but then I just installed 5.9 yesterday (which allows activating Low at user-defined speed).

    There are many, many posts in TMC threads that say the textile seats are really, really good.

    When you pick up your car in June, save some money to buy the netting for the "microwave" in the frunk. There will likely be a few other odds and ends like the all-weather mats (they have been a godsend at keeping the mud and dirt in an easily-cleanable location and also keeps the carpet and regular mats pristine).

    Enjoy! Wait, what am I saying. Of course you'll enjoy it! And I can see that Tesla grin already!

     
  14. jerry33

    jerry33 S85 - VIN:P05130 - 3/2/13

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    I've had the piano black for over a year now, and what collects dust and fingerprints is the touchscreen. Carbon fibre wasn't an option when I purchased mine but $800 seems like a lot. I'm not sure it looks as good anyway.
     
  15. Pilot_51

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    I've considered the S85, but Btrflyl8e is right, I couldn't justify it. 60 is plenty for the range I need and will still work fine for long trips. With all my experience being on low performance cars with 0-60 over 8 seconds, performance of the 60 is more than sufficient for me. The main concern is the limited warranty, but with my commute I'll still have a buffer of over 2000 miles a year, so I think I'm safe. The benefits of the extra options outweigh the benefits of the 85. I am also considering trading it in for a Gen3 after it hits production, if it's compelling enough.

    The Supercharger option is available in the shop for remote activation. It's $500 extra, but I am willing to take the hit if it means I can pay off my car earlier and there's a chance (however slim) I'll never need it.

    Based on the comments that suggest I likely won't need it, I might be dropping the dual chargers. I would hate to find out I want it later, so I'll sleep on it before deciding if I should take that $2100 risk over the current $1500 risk.

    My main reasoning for the pano roof is for the headroom, which to my understanding is a rather significant issue with the standard roof. I will certainly be giving lots of rides and I wouldn't want my passengers to be uncomfortable in my expensive car. I don't know if I'll ever use the roof mounts, but it's nice to have the flexibility. Another thing I've imagined myself doing, since I have an interest in astronomy, is driving to a dark place, opening the pano, leaning the seat back (does it lean back far?), and staring at the stars in comfort. My primary concern is how it will hold up to Michigan winters as far as insulating the cabin, though I noticed aftermarket insulation can be installed.

    For the air suspension, everything is pretty flat around here, but the snow can be a pain and I thought that was enough to justify it. The curb clearing and extra smooth ride are a plus. I can probably be swayed to standard suspension since the benefits of air in snow are more or less theoretical.

    I've thought about the paint and am aware that the blue often looks black, yet brilliant in the sun. I kind of prefer dark colors, but not so much plain black. So I think my color preference and the fact that the paint is the most visible preference makes it worth the $750.

    It sounds like I'll be sticking with the piano black decor since the dust and fingerprints aren't all that bad, not worth $650+ to avoid. Also good to know about the Tesla cloth, that conveniently saves me a few bucks. :wink:

    For anything in shop, I'll take a "wait and see" stance. I'll want to be clear on my new cashflow before any additional unnecessary spending. I guess the only real negative might be the additional cost of shipping if it doesn't come with the car.
     
  16. dsm363

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    #16 dsm363, Apr 17, 2014
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    Best of luck. You'll take big hit on the value and lose more money selling a new car like this in 3 years for a Model E though than getting exactly what you want now. The added range and included Supercharging on the 85kWh car is definitely worth it if you plan to take trips often. There are very few 80A public stations around so if you don't know of any then getting the twin chargers won't help you. I think getting them anyway is nice as they sometimes come in handy but not at the expense of getting more useful options like Supercharging or added range.

    For worst case use, ChadS has that great post about using 77% rated range so 156 miles of rated range. Which means only driving 78 miles in one direction and back in bad winter weather if you have no destination charging. You are right the 60 would easily cover your daily driving but since you said you plan to travel with it the 85 does come in handy and no one so far has said they regret getting the added range and upgraded warranty. Also since this will be your only car you should take that into consideration too.

    For the Pano roof and headroom definitely sit in one and see what you think. It does help but if you won't be having a lot of people riding in the back might not be necessary depending on how tall they are.
     
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    I've read many posts where people thought a 60 would be "perfect" but after getting the car they really regret not getting an 85. Then again, others are perfectly fine with a 60. I just wanted to make sure he wouldn't be in the first category, especially since he is from Michigan where cold really sucks up range, dual chargers may not be needed, air may not be worth it over a 85, and fog lights might be a throw away.
     
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    +1 on going for the 85 and leaving out options like air, pano, fog and winter package...
     
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    dsm363 Roadster + Sig Model S

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    #19 dsm363, Apr 17, 2014
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    There is a difference between a bare bones 60 that is stretching someone's budget and a 60 with a lot of options on it. I agree many can get the 60 (probably most) and it will work great but until you have the car it is sometimes tough to know how useful the added range can be even if you think you won't need it. It sounds like this will be his only car too so maximizing its usefulness even for rare occasions is important. That said if he is confident the 60 will work and the options have more more value than range and Supercharging then he should do that.
     
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    The Model E doesn't have enough weight to affect my choices now, it's only something I'm thinking as a future possibility and I'd probably wait at least a couple years into production if I decide to go with it. I will work out the cost/benefit when the time comes. I probably shouldn't have mentioned it.

    PlugShare shows a few Level 2 stations within a mile of my work and at least one of them are free. This may have something to do with the high popularity of the Volt around here where many people work for GM (I see roughly 8 a day). I'm looking at the dual chargers more like insurance in the event of, say, losing power at my house for 3 days or taking a trip where there are no Superchargers, or whatever else. The question is whether that insurance is worth $1500 to cut that potentially inconvenient charge time in half (2 vs. 4 hours to cover round trip commute) and eliminate any chance of paying $3600 for it later. If my workplace installs a charging station or external 240v outlet (which sounds unlikely in the near future), charge time shouldn't ever be an issue on my normal workdays. I'm leaning against the dual chargers, but still on the fence.

    I'm personally not a big fan of taking trips. For the foreseeable future, I'll probably only do it for family vacations, which have typically been about every other Christmas. Again, my main reason for excluding the Supercharger is because it can be activated later and I want to pay off my loan ASAP, and I'm okay with the extra $500 to do that. I estimate that adding the $2000 Supercharger option will cost around $200 in interest at my quoted rate of 3.95% (no credit history), so the effective cost of post-activation would be around $300. Comparing the insurance of 60 miles more range with the 85 for long trips for $7000 (excluding value of included options) and the insurance for charging at inconvenient times at Level 2 stations for $1500, I think the dual chargers are a better value in my case. As it is, it sounds like I'll be going for neither.

    I'm 6'2" and I did sit in the rear seat of a Model S's with pano at the Detroit auto show and was pleased with the rear seat headroom and openess, though I was leaning forward most of the time to point out things to my dad and friend in the front. I haven't had a chance to try the standard, let alone even a test drive because the dealers forced the last local event to cancel about an hour before I got there. I expect most of my passengers would be at least 6' tall and most frequently my team when we go out to lunch. The co-worker who showed the most interest in Model S is somewhere around 6'6".

    Worst case, I'll wish I went for the 85 after driving a loaner, but I won't regret my purchase. I find that I am easily content with not having the best stuff; my gaming PC is still going strong after 8 years. I'll finally have a car that will hold me over for a number of years until I'm in a more comfortable financial situation and in the market for a better car, not as desperate as I am now.

    Before I decided to finance, I was considering something close to bare-bones with just the tech package, parking sensors, and sub-zero weather package. Now with financing, I don't want to stray too far from that minimalism, but want the options I think are worth my hard-earned money. An S85 with those 3 options is still a few thousand more than a 60 with all the options I think might be worth it (in my order). One way or another, I'll learn something from it for my next car, and that knowledge will be worth the costs.
     

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