TMC is an independent, primarily volunteer organization that relies on ad revenue to cover its operating costs. Please consider whitelisting TMC on your ad blocker or making a Paypal contribution here: paypal.me/SupportTMC

Ouch! First huge repair bill.

Discussion in 'Canada' started by kbeckley, May 18, 2016.

  1. kbeckley

    kbeckley Member

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2010
    Messages:
    128
    Location:
    Toronto(ish)
    Bit of a warning to early model S owners and others. I have owned a model S since Dec 22, 2012 and I bought the extended care package. It has gone through 4 winters, 2 hard ones and 2 warmer ones. The car has 104,000km on the odometer.

    Last year I started hearing a rattling noise in the right rear and it turned out to be a loose parking brake pad. That got fixed and this year the other side started rattling. As well the breaks seemed to be a little soft but in no way concerning. After 3 weeks waiting for the appointment I dropped the car off and got a call saying that all 4 break pistons has seized and it would cost $8500 to repair! Wow. That is the most expensive repair I have ever had on a car. By a long shot. I was told that because the breaks are not used that much the pistons can seize. So one of the benefits of regen might not be so much of a benefit at all. Apparently Tesla is recommending a break servicing for cars in the northeast every year. I was also told that there was lots of wear left on the rotors and brake pads but they wanted to change them all out as the rotors were heavily pitted. They also mentioned that I should break hard a couple of times a week but I'm not sure if that is official Tesla policy.

    Here are some of the part costs costs:
    Break caliper assembly with piston (each): $745.00
    Rear rotor (each): $331.00
    Front Rotor (each): $290.00
    Parking break caliper with pads: $1,235.00

    They also replaced a the upper control arm on the driver's side: $261.00

    Tesla managed to salvage one of the pistons but they had to change out 3 of them agreed to not charge for labour on the job so my final bill was $5,824.75. I was not expecting that when I dropped the car off.

    I asked Jay (who is as helpful as ever) what other 'surprises' I might be in for and he could not think of any but I am nervous.

    So Tesla may have an issue with this or is might just be my car but I certainly recommend everyone in the east (and especially Sig owners) have their breaks looked at right away. I would have one of the earliest cars to go through 4 winters but a near $6K repair bill does not make this the cheapest car I have ever owned.

    It is hard to swallow getting a complete brake replacement when the rotors or pads were not worn down.

    Tesla service people were great as usual.
     
    • Informative x 20
    • Like x 1
  2. Johan

    Johan Took a TSLA bear test. Came back negative.

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2012
    Messages:
    6,890
    Location:
    Drammen, Norway
    That blows. Will definitely have my brakes looked over as I'm through my 3rd winter.
     
  3. RiverBrick

    RiverBrick Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2014
    Messages:
    1,365
    Location:
    Québec
    Sorry for such an unpleasant surprise.

    When you say extended care package, are you referring to the yearly service or to the extended service contract which covers some repairs, less a $200 deductible? Just cendering if brake repair is excluded from the extended contract.
     
  4. Electric700

    Electric700 Member

    Joined:
    May 21, 2013
    Messages:
    984
    Location:
    Florida, United States
    Wow, thanks for the warning.
     
  5. jaguar36

    jaguar36 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2014
    Messages:
    859
    Location:
    NJ
    *jaw drop*
    If all 4 brakes were seized how were you stopping or even holding the car on a hill?
    Also those prices are like 50% higher than dealer prices for a 5-series rotor.
     
    • Informative x 1
  6. Johan

    Johan Took a TSLA bear test. Came back negative.

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2012
    Messages:
    6,890
    Location:
    Drammen, Norway
    Regen and Hill hold could probably do almost all the work in everyday driving. I'm guessing not all four brakes were 100% frozen as that would, as you say, make it impossible to come to a full stop.
     
  7. GlmnAlyAirCar

    GlmnAlyAirCar Member

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2015
    Messages:
    515
    Location:
    Gilbertsville, PA
    You might want to consider looking at an independent repair shop. It's a braking system - all cars have one and they're all very similar. They may have difficulty procuring parts but likely would be able to get your car on the road again much more cheaply.
     
    • Like x 3
    • Informative x 1
  8. Camera-Cruiser

    Camera-Cruiser Fully Charged

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2015
    Messages:
    424
    Location:
    Fullerton, CA
    Hmmmm. I'd still fish around for more of a break, nicely. Although you do live in a harsher environment than some, it seems that you were given a Steve Jobs answer "you're holding, I mean driving it wrong." Which is what he famously told users and reporters about iPhones with poor call reception.

    Sure, we have regen, but brakes are still used daily. Don't you ever have to stomp all over them at moose crossingso_O.

    Also, the control arm speaks to other threads about this part wearing prematurely, and not being up to snuff with other industry standards.

    It never hurts to ask again nicely, and escalate nicely too.
     
    • Like x 1
  9. anthony

    anthony Member

    Joined:
    May 3, 2013
    Messages:
    154
    Location:
    New Hampshire
    Also in the north east, been through two winters, have had the break pads and rotors replaced under the yearly service package. I have had some problems, but only with the front, and I was told at one point that I received an upgraded version of brakes, which might be different than what was on your vehicle.

    I did just purchase the extended warranty though for another reason. Battery cooling louvers and coolant pumps that would have cost me $2500.
     
  10. Bishop

    Bishop Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2016
    Messages:
    310
    Location:
    Sc
    I remember before i got rid of my M6 they said the brake job was like 10k a wheel the trick then was to make sure it was still under the extended warranty when it went out
     
  11. kbeckley

    kbeckley Member

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2010
    Messages:
    128
    Location:
    Toronto(ish)
    Yes this is what I never quite understood despite asking. The breaks (rattle aside) seemed to be working just fine before I took it in. So 'seized' seems to be the wrong word - yet that is the word that was used. I don't think seized pistons is really a wear and tear item like pads and rotors are.
     
  12. kbeckley

    kbeckley Member

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2010
    Messages:
    128
    Location:
    Toronto(ish)
    I got the $5,000 (Canadian) service extended package.
     
  13. tdjvfr

    tdjvfr Member

    Joined:
    Mar 16, 2016
    Messages:
    39
    Location:
    NC
    Sorry, but I find the cost of repair to be way way out of line. And frankly, given a bill like that would make me dump my Tesla and probably wouldn't purchase again. If Tesla wants to be successful they must have reasonable repair costs. Otherwise, there will be no used market for their cars. Which will drop prices pretty quickly.
     
    • Like x 3
  14. cwave1

    cwave1 Member

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2013
    Messages:
    234
    Location:
    Mississauga, ON, CANADA
    I'm lucky since I'm still under full warranty but I've had my 2.5 year old car's brakes replaced twice now. After about a year, the rotors vibrated and when I asked Tesla about it, they had a new design to deal with the fact that we rarely brake.

    After about 2 years the rotors started vibrating again. I was told that in cold climates like ours that use a lot of salt on the roads, the current rotors become pitted and vibrate. I had to wait almost 6 months for the "cold weather brake package" parts to come in but it was finally completed a few weeks ago.

    As you can see, Tesla knew about both of these problems before I ever brought them to their attention. With this knowledge, I would cause a stink with Tesla corporate and try to get at least some of the expense compensated.
     
    • Like x 2
    • Helpful x 1
    • Informative x 1
  15. Pdub2015

    Pdub2015 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2015
    Messages:
    181
    Location:
    Wheaton, MD
    Jesus, how hard is it to consistently use the correct spelling of "brakes?"
     
    • Like x 11
    • Dislike x 2
  16. Johan

    Johan Took a TSLA bear test. Came back negative.

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2012
    Messages:
    6,890
    Location:
    Drammen, Norway
    About as easy as it is to take the Lord's name in vain.
     
    • Like x 13
    • Dislike x 6
    • Funny x 6
  17. TaoJones

    TaoJones Beyond Driven

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2014
    Messages:
    1,299
    Location:
    The Americas
    As another datapoint here in non-cold wx country I'm on my 3rd set of pads and 6th set of front rotors.

    If you feel undue vibration, and your alignment is fine and your tires wear evenly, have the rotors checked, the pads checked for irregularity, and from there the list grows - could be a mistorqued control arm or a prematurely worn bushing or, and it gets worse from there.

    Then there's weather - see above - yikes.

    Yeah, owning one of these cars without a warranty and even with the ESA as written seems more and more like an expensive roll of the dice.

    Not what I signed up for, but evidently that's what it has become. Rather puts a premium upon driving the safest car on the planet. In the end, it appears I bought 2 years too early. I shall endeavor to have more fun road trips to make up for it :).
     
    • Informative x 1
    • Like x 1
  18. Scannerman

    Scannerman Member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2016
    Messages:
    38
    Location:
    San Diego
    You seem remarkably well adjusted to this development. I can't help but think that Tesla might make a considerable adjustment, if you pursue this with Corporate. Most car companies have a 'Slush' fund ear marked for unusual events like yours. (I assume this would be considered unusual-I certainly hope so). I personally received some help from Cadillac on at least one occasion back around the year 2000.

    I would be interested in learning of any subsequent reimbursement you may receive. Your anecdote is making me a little nervous about anything beyond a three year lease.

    Scannerman
     
  19. GlmnAlyAirCar

    GlmnAlyAirCar Member

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2015
    Messages:
    515
    Location:
    Gilbertsville, PA
    Thor, how hard is it to consistently use the correct spelling of "brakes?"

    Any better?
     
    • Like x 10
    • Funny x 5
    • Love x 2
  20. davidc18

    davidc18 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2015
    Messages:
    806
    Location:
    So. FL
    +1 - have to agree.
     
    • Like x 3

Share This Page