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Ovens site management encouraging ICEing of Supercharger stalls

Discussion in 'Australia' started by Nuclear Fusion, Dec 26, 2020.

  1. Nuclear Fusion

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    #1 Nuclear Fusion, Dec 26, 2020
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    4581EF68-0740-4919-9F78-567A8276F857.jpeg

    3 out of the 4 stalls have this laminated sign on them
     
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  2. Nuclear Fusion

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    Just went on Google reviews site for the Happy Valley Hotel & it must have started 5 days ago (2 reviews 1 out of 5 stars)
     
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    Are they having some kind of dispute with Tesla currently?
     
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    Charming.
     
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  6. Hairyman

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    Would an email to Tesla make a difference?
     
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    This was brought to TOCA's attention last Monday and on that day escalated by the TOCA President to the Supercharger Program Manager at Tesla. No further news as of this writing.
     
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    I wonder if this is partially to do with the Vic introduction of a fine
    Non-EV drivers who block charging bays face fines

    Basically stops their customers (ICErs or EVrs) getting fined.


    But could equally be a bigger issue. Noting that Tesla has recently lost its Warrnambool temporary pub site.
     
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    This is a bit concerning since I'm planning on charging there today and there aren't any other superchargers in the area
     
  10. Hairyman

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    Looking at PlugShare the ICEing of those chargers is pretty frequent. Not sure why it is still getting such a good rating.
     
  11. RareEarth

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    Is this person based in Oz or the US?
     
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    Might have an opportunity to speak with the unHappy Valley hotel owner... seems to me there's more to this than meets the eye.
     
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  13. Hairyman

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    It would be good to hear the other side of the arrangement.
     
  14. Nuclear Fusion

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    The super chargers should be in Bright (as seemed to be the original plan)
    All it does is cater to the ‘relative few’ who go to Falls Creek for skiing from June to September
    Mount Hotham is closer
    Bright is one of the biggest tourist towns in Victoria
    Hope there’s a falling out & they set up in Bright
     
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    They are always ICEd. Always. Even before the laminated signs
     
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    I wonder what Tesla’s fixed outlays are for this
    50K? 100K? 300K?
     
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    This is epically bad, as it can have an effect beyond this one site.

    They are essentially “training”’drivers that Iceing EV spaces is an acceptable activity.
     
  18. Blue heaven

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    A storm in a tea cup created by a few Tesla owners lacking the diplomacy to have a reasonable conversation with the new owners and actually getting their point of view, luckily someone did as per the copied facebook post. Hopefully for the sake of future Tesla owners that wish to use the Ovens Supercharger their hasn't been too many self entitled negative reviews on the hotels social media. image.jpg
     
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    #19 Nuclear Fusion, Dec 27, 2020
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    1. I’ve been there with another Tesla charging. Regardless, the owner needs to get an understanding of the saying ‘the plural of anecdote is not data’. Furthermore, Tesla is accomodating future vehicle ownership - pretty monkey level basic logic
    2. He needs to put up signage stating something along the lines “if no charging bays are available please speak to management on duty to have car moved”
    3. Almost every time I have been there, outside ‘happy hour’ crowds, there have been plenty of other spaces available. Plenty. Yet cars park there (and this has been the case for over a year, not simply since management change)
    4. See point 1. Additionally, if you’ve got stuff on the back of the car, such as multiple bikes or trailer, you need 2 to 3 bays to charge your car, as you have to park parallel for the charge cable to reach

    As for Tesla, sounds like they haven’t made the contract water tight or foreseen the basics of change of ownership
     
  20. Blue heaven

    Blue heaven Fair Dinkum Tesla

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    There's no incentive for future Tesla ownership if there's no supercharger in Ovens for any owners. This misunderstanding is doing the rounds on social media portrayed as a THEM verses US battle, multiple keyboard warriors posting fake negative reviews against the hotel will only antagonize the owners further.
     
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