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P3 Brake Job
- Thread starter beastmode13
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42 hot, 42 cold is crazy.
But RE71R can handle higher temps than RS4. 42 hot in a racing situation for RS4 is probably too much
Just try things out and play with it!
destructure00
Active Member
Yes and yes. Thanks for the input. I'll take a grease pen with me so I can mark the tires before each session.
Thanks!
You must be a winner. It says so on the box.
Please do report back on those Endless pads after a track day.
They are not for sale right now, they are prototypes but works really well still. I'll post a mini review soon.
Do you like? How do Endless compare to what you tried so far? What pads have you tried?
***PSA***
You can retract or extend the EPB piston by hooking up 12v power source to the contacts inside of the plug of the EPB motor. On the Performance red caliper the plug is square on one side. To retract the inner piston, connect (-) ground to the contact close to the square side while connect (+) to the contact at the round end of the plug. To extend the inner piston, switch the polarity. There is no auto stop on the motor, so pay attention to the sound of the motor when it is at end of its travel on retraction. Break the circuit when you hear the sound change.
You can retract or extend the EPB piston by hooking up 12v power source to the contacts inside of the plug of the EPB motor. On the Performance red caliper the plug is square on one side. To retract the inner piston, connect (-) ground to the contact close to the square side while connect (+) to the contact at the round end of the plug. To extend the inner piston, switch the polarity. There is no auto stop on the motor, so pay attention to the sound of the motor when it is at end of its travel on retraction. Break the circuit when you hear the sound change.
EVTuning
Former Vendor
It's a lot easier to juch chock the wheels, put the car in tow mode (controls, service, tow mode), unplug the caliper, do what you need to do, plug it back in and disengage tow mode. Car does all the work for you.
Pros:
They are magical. No fade on them compared to stock. Have not tried other pads, because I spend a lot of time chatting with @mcbarnet007, and up until these pads, his feedback had been mixed with other pads (3 or 4 different manufacturers). Knowing how frequently he's on track, and how hard he pushes the car, if he was praising the pads, I felt it was worth a shot. They are also pretty quiet on the street, with only a squeak here and there.
Cons:
- The rear pads rattle like all heck unless you add the stock shim. This is quite annoying, and even embarrassing during daily driving. I've had time to replace one shim, and it helped quiet that side. I will do the other side this weekend. It takes a bit of elbow grease to remove the shim from the stock pad, and you'll need to hammer the shim flat.
- Biggest issue - the are far too close to the Mountain Pass Performance Rotor hats. Without the shim, they rattle, so they can make contact with the rotor hat. Once the pad material wears, it's even more likely to contact the rotor hat. I gave feedback to the supplier, and they seemingly don't care. The only response I got was that they designed them to work with the stock rotor, so MPP's rotor must be different in size...
- Real dusty. Though I'm sure MPP's slotted rotors contribute to pad wear, and thus an increase in pad dust.
You can see the closeness here:
And it actually made contact at some point:
Paint missing from the rattle, rattle:
Awesome. I was going to do this when adding a shim to the Endless pad, but I was also short on time, and didn't want to mess something up. I still need to shim the other side, so I will definitely do this.
destructure00
Active Member
My experience is that the parking brake piston doesn't fully retract...it just retracts enough to release the rotor. If swapping in thicker brake pads, this isn't enough to allow the new pads to clear the rotor when reinstalling.
This absolutely does not work if the new pads are thicker than the pads you are replacing (new or used).
The Endless rear pads backing plate is exactly the same size as OEM pads backing plate. However, it doesn't have the shim and clip. With the shim, it will keep the pads in place and shouldn't touch the rotor hat hardware. Taking the OEM shim off does take some work but it's a one time thing since you can keep reusing it. My OEM shim is already on my 3rd set of rear pads and still going strong.
Endless pads do get dusty but the wear on the street is great. There is minimal wear from daily driving and very little noise.
Another thing I noticed is how much better the brake pedal modulation is compare to other pads. Once you get a little heat in them, it bites right away and the pedal feel is consistent time after time giving you the confidence needed to push the brake zone.
Endless pads do get dusty but the wear on the street is great. There is minimal wear from daily driving and very little noise.
Another thing I noticed is how much better the brake pedal modulation is compare to other pads. Once you get a little heat in them, it bites right away and the pedal feel is consistent time after time giving you the confidence needed to push the brake zone.
The parking brake has a limited range it will retract/extend in one shot so if you have totally worn pads you'll still need to manually retract the piston (or use beastmode's innovative method)
They are available to order, but I don't have contact info handy at the moment. @mcbarnet007 can you give him details?
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That works if you only want to release the EPB. If you need to replace the pad with a thicker pad, the EPB needs to be retracted beyond the amount of retraction programmed for tow mode/EPB release.
It looks like many others already chimed in with the same response.
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