P3D Stealth Performance

[lozza]

Hi folks.

Has anyone tested the performance of their P3D stealth? I would love to know if it is the same speed as the P3D with PUP... Especially now since we have a 'unique' orphaned car. It would be annoying to find out that non PUPs are slower than 3.3s 0-60

I don't have a speed test gadget so can't test mine. Unless someone would like to lend me one, I'm in the Bay Area

 

[Akikiki]

Why do you call it stealth? Do you bump into it walking out to the garage to get in?

 

[Daniel in SD]

They're probably a bit quicker since they have lighter wheels and lighter brakes. They do lack the improved aerodynamics of the carbon fiber spoiler though. Seriously though there are a bunch of measured results on this forum that show they are exactly the same.

 

[Msjulie]

Why do you call it stealth? Do you bump into it walking out to the garage to get in?

Cause w/o the rear badge, no one expects you to smoke them in a plain old Model 3

 

[Funkmobile]

Cause w/o the rear badge, no one expects you to smoke them in a plain old Model 3

AWD ain't no scrub off the line either

 

[Garlan Garner]

Hi folks.

Has anyone tested the performance of their P3D stealth? I would love to know if it is the same speed as the P3D with PUP... Especially now since we have a 'unique' orphaned car. It would be annoying to find out that non PUPs are slower than 3.3s 0-60

I don't have a speed test gadget so can't test mine. Unless someone would like to lend me one, I'm in the Bay Area

No...it would be annoying to find out that non PUPs are 3.3 0-60. That indeed would be extremely annoying.

 

[Garlan Garner]

AWD ain't no scrub off the line either

What is AWD's 0-60 time?

 

[Funkmobile]

What is AWD's 0-60 time?

1 second slower than the P3D

 

[Garlan Garner]

1 second slower than the P3D

4.3? really?

Oh wait....its 4.5 on the Tesla website. https://3.tesla.com/model3/design?#battery

 

[JeffK]

Both are about the same 0-60 in 3.5 seconds (3.3 seconds plus 1ft rollout)

 

[Garlan Garner]

Both are about the same 0-60 in 3.5 seconds (3.3 seconds plus 1ft rollout)

Where are you getting that data? That's not what I see on the Tesla website. https://3.tesla.com/model3/design?#battery

The tesla website shows:

RWD = 5.6
AWD = 4.5
P3D = 3.3

 

[JeffK]

Where are you getting that data? That's not what I see on the Tesla website. https://3.tesla.com/model3/design?#battery

Actual performance measurements which mine match exactly what Tesla had advertised.

Tesla starts advertising quicker 0-60 mph acceleration for Model 3 Performance

I get exactly 3.5 / 3.3 as advertised. (on a flat surface)

 

[Garlan Garner]

Actual performance measurements which mine match exactly what Tesla had advertised.

Tesla starts advertising quicker 0-60 mph acceleration for Model 3 Performance

I get exactly 3.5 / 3.3 as advertised.

I don't believe that AWD and P3D match exactly in 0-60 times. No way.

If they do....then P3D's deserve a refund.

 

[JeffK]

I don't believe that AWD and P3D match exactly in 0-60 times. No way.

OP is referring to
P3D+ vs P3D- not AWD

 

[Garlan Garner]

OP is referring to
P3D+ vs P3D- not AWD

Ok...the thread is getting mixed up then.

@Funkmobile mentioned AWD and that's what I was replying to earlier.

 

[JeffK]

Ok...the thread is getting mixed up then.

@Funkmobile mentioned AWD and that's what I was replying to earlier.

I don't even see a P3D+ or P3D- option on the website anymore.

It's not available which is why the OP mentioned it was orphaned

Especially now since we have a 'unique' orphaned car.

Instead, they sell it with the PUP with the same price.... which is why many of us are getting refunds.

 

[Garlan Garner]

It's not available which is why the OP mentioned it was orphaned


Instead, they sell it with the PUP with the same price.... which is why many of us are getting refunds.

Wait - who is getting a refund? How do I apply for a refund?

 

[JeffK]

Wait - who is getting a refund?

Anyone who bought P3D with PUP (before the price change) can get a $5000 refund in exchange for free supercharging.

Elon Musk on Twitter
Performance Upgrade Price Change!
Confirm PUP $5000 refund thread

 

[Garlan Garner]

Anyone who bought P3D with PUP (before the price change) can get a $5000 refund in exchange for free supercharging.

Elon Musk on Twitter
Performance Upgrade Price Change!
Confirm PUP $5000 refund thread

Oh...ok thanks. I remember that. I'm sticking with the unlimited supercharging.

I consider a refund....just that.... a refund.

This program is an exchange - not a refund - which I refuse to comment on.

Thanks.

 

[Knightshade]

P3+ and P3- have the same 0-60 performance, both in listed Tesla spec and based on actual measurements owners have posted here in the past.

Likewise the AWD matches Tesla specs and is 1 full second slower 0-60.


The confusion comes in where Tesla changed how they advertise the P (only) to knock .2 off for rollout, which they don't do when listing specs on non-P cars but they all gain about the same benefit from it.


So anyway the "real life" numbers (ignoring rollout) are 3.5 for both P models and 4.5 for AWD.... or ~3.3 both Ps and ~4.3 (4.26 from last owner test I saw) when including rollout.



Also interesting to note the AWD is still almost exactly 1 second slower vs the P at the end of the 1/4 mile (and with a fairly close trap speed too), reflecting the fact that nearly all the difference in performance is in that initial 0-60 sprint and at highway speeds there's very little difference between either P and the AWD.... (the RWD in contrast a significantly slower than the rest, and with a much lower trap speed too)