I know there are plenty of similar threads, so I'll make this short and to the point. I owned a P85 for 6 weeks, and took delivery of a new P85+ earlier this week. Tex is right.. the + makes a huge difference, especially to someone like myself who comes from a high end sports car background. Coming out of a V10 R8, the handling of the P85 left me really wanting more. The adjustments of the + really help cover some of the gap. The best way I'd like to describe this.. it feels as if I went from a car who's entire suspension system felt like it was held together by thin rubber bands - to a car held together by tight leather straps. Does that make sense? I don't care, I'm sticking with it.