Maybe not a valid comparison. We have now deep consideration over ordering a 85D/P85D for delivery next summer. BUT.....plug in hybrids like Passat GTE wagon make sence. AND....Toyotas launch of first mass market hydrogen sedan also makes a statement. The well rounded classic design of MS and usable everyday range is all the same something my family will enjoy for the years to come.... Time will show. Regards from South Norway JIT "Just In Time"