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Two of the three least expensive P85Ds available right now look like very good candidates. Fully loaded and relatively low miles.
White with 39K miles for $69.9K.
Mid Silver with 28K miles for $70.7K

The newest batch still has crazy starting prices - 80s and 90s. Granted, more are ‘15s, but still crazy high prices.
 
You will find that ICE cars can refuel within 5 minutes + bathroom and food break. Supercharging is usually 20-45 minutes worth of wait to get a nice buffer charge to get you 2-3 hours to the next supercharger. If your goal is crunching 800+ miles in a day as fast as possible, the ICE cars offer amazing liquid "technology" at a price. However, if your on a more typical 300-400 mile per day road trip, the savings on the wallet and superior driving performance is very nice despite the slow and limited Supercharger network vs. a gas station on every corner pumping liquid energy.
 
By default, I think anyone considering an EV purchase knows that trip planning is extra work compared to an ICE car due to charging time. SCs almost negate that aspect as a 30min pit stop is “nothing” unless your road trip is not for leisure and you’re just trying to get someplace greater than 300 miles as fast as possible.
 
All of my top picks were sold :( Renting another one Sunday to take it for a long drive and see how the super charger works. Maybe then I'll pull the trigger.

Be patient. Dozens of P85Ds will be coming off lease in the next few months. I'm waiting for my ideal configuration at the right price but I know that prices will only go down and the inventory will only go up. Good place to be :)

There's still a P85D for sale for $61K but it is from a dealer... You might be able to buy it for around $55K as I also see it on eBay and they are open to lower offers on the car. If you get it thoroughly checked out, it is $15K cheaper than the least expensive CPO option.
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/726595940/overview/

The next best I could find for a P85D is $70K and it looks to be a private party sale. Looks clean with nice options. Especially if you can contact the seller and buy it, including the extended warranty, for the mid 60s.
2015 Tesla Model S p85d | eBay

I see two recently SOLD listings on eBay for $65K for a P85D so if you are looking to buy one, try to get one for around that price. Still kicking myself for missing out on a P85D that was sold for $54,500 about 10 days ago :(
 
Just curious. What premium would you P85D buyers pay for:

  1. Ludicrous? All the inventory P85D's only have Insane...
  2. sportier Plus Suspension?
  3. BOTH Ludicrous and Plus Suspension?

I would actually PREFER to buy a P85D WITHOUT the Plus Suspension. I like the more luxurious and smoother ride of the current performance Model S cars without the Plus Suspension. So in my case, not only would I not pay a premium for the Plus Suspension but I would avoid buying one. As a bonus, I will likely end up with a later build P85D with whatever improvements that gets rolled into later models...

I also would not want staggered wheels that I can't rotate or the 21" wheels that are more prone to damage but at least I can get rid of the 21" wheels after buying the car so that's not a deal breaker.

I definitely would like Ludicrous and the premium I would pay would be a couple of thousand at most but it would not be a deal beaker.
 
Just curious. What premium would you P85D buyers pay for:

  1. Ludicrous? All the inventory P85D's only have Insane...
  2. sportier Plus Suspension?
  3. BOTH Ludicrous and Plus Suspension?

1. $1K - yes, i know, but the only reason I'd even pay $1K is for bragging rights/be able to say I have it. :) Insane will be much more than enough for me
2. I got lucky and my pending delivery has it after decoding the VIN; handling is important to me (firmer vs softer) so I would've paid $500-$1K more for it
3. N/A
 
There's still a P85D for sale for $61K but it is from a dealer... You might be able to buy it for around $55K as I also see it on eBay and they are open to lower offers on the car. If you get it thoroughly checked out, it is $15K cheaper than the least expensive CPO option.
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/726595940/overview

Highly recommend against anyone purchasing this particular car. I contacted that dealer a week or so ago. The car is damaged. The repair job to the left rear is poor. The right front of the bumper is scraped and chipped to hell. Ran the VIN past Tesla and was told the car was denied CPO and sent to auction for “structural and body damage”. Beware.

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Highly recommend against anyone purchasing this particular car. I contacted that dealer a week or so ago. The car is damaged. The repair job to the left rear is poor. The right front of the bumper is scraped and chipped to hell. Ran the VIN past Tesla and was told the car was denied CPO and sent to auction for “structural and body damage”. Beware.

This is exactly why I'd only buy private party if the car was local or close enough for me to inspect personally. CPO, for all the feedback about Tesla's "unique" process, at least guarantees me that there won't be surprises like this. Granted, take guarantee w/ a grain of salt, but in general, they aren't interested in passing on shady cars so that they get negative feedback. When I was working w/ my CPO adviser, she actually asked me if I was interested in cars that had some minor paintwork done. I told her no, but it was good that she even asked. Different cars for different price points and comfort levels.
 
Highly recommend against anyone purchasing this particular car. I contacted that dealer a week or so ago. The car is damaged. The repair job to the left rear is poor. The right front of the bumper is scraped and chipped to hell. Ran the VIN past Tesla and was told the car was denied CPO and sent to auction for “structural and body damage”. Beware.

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Thanks so much for posting this. Good to know this particular car has issues and more so that Tesla CPO was declined on this car as it makes me feel better about the CPO process!
 
This is exactly why I'd only buy private party if the car was local or close enough for me to inspect personally. CPO, for all the feedback about Tesla's "unique" process, at least guarantees me that there won't be surprises like this. Granted, take guarantee w/ a grain of salt, but in general, they aren't interested in passing on shady cars so that they get negative feedback. When I was working w/ my CPO adviser, she actually asked me if I was interested in cars that had some minor paintwork done. I told her no, but it was good that she even asked. Different cars for different price points and comfort levels.

I totally agree with you about private party buying. That's what I would prefer to because by meeting the owner and seeing how they treat the car and in what condition it is kept, gives you some idea about how the car was treated.

I am open to buying a Tesla CPO car but I would check that car out VERY thoroughly. If you search the forums, there are people who bought Tesla CPO cars and then found out later there were major issues with the car having being repainted and other matters. While some issues were taken care of, others were not. The best way to avoid a huge ordeal and a stressful mess is to very thoroughly check out the service history and condition of the car.

I'd be especially concerned if I run a CarFax and then find out the car was traded in to Tesla months ago and the car has subsequently accumulated a bunch of miles as a loaner because I know how some people beat the crap out of loaner cars.

Your strategy of taking grantees with a grain of salt is the way to go when buying any used car.

I really wonder what Tesla is doing with all the Model S vehicles that are being traded in every day given the lack of Tesla Model S CPO inventory changes additions for quite a while. I guess we will see hundreds of CPO cars being added to the inventory one of these days.
 
Highly recommend against anyone purchasing this particular car. I contacted that dealer a week or so ago. The car is damaged. The repair job to the left rear is poor. The right front of the bumper is scraped and chipped to hell. Ran the VIN past Tesla and was told the car was denied CPO and sent to auction for “structural and body damage”. Beware.

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Dont know if anyone else noticed this but the passenger door has a nice huge dent at the bottom of it.
Carfax also reports "Other Damage"


https://www.carfax.com/VehicleHisto...JSA1H22EFP67570&partner=COO_0#DamageIndicator
 
I think you can get this with both private sales and from Tesla - the peace of mind with Tesla is they’ll usually remedy the problems. Here in the uk, and I can only imagine this is a global problem unless we’re ultra fussy, new cars are having extensive body work and paint correction work on brand new cars. One guy ended up with a complete respray because of oramge peel (he decided not to return the car thinking a respray would give a better result than factory). A bit of paint or minor defect work has been a common element of making and delivering cars irrespective of brand, the key is having the work done well.
 
I totally agree with you about private party buying. That's what I would prefer to because by meeting the owner and seeing how they treat the car and in what condition it is kept, gives you some idea about how the car was treated.

I am open to buying a Tesla CPO car but I would check that car out VERY thoroughly. If you search the forums, there are people who bought Tesla CPO cars and then found out later there were major issues with the car having being repainted and other matters. While some issues were taken care of, others were not. The best way to avoid a huge ordeal and a stressful mess is to very thoroughly check out the service history and condition of the car.

I'd be especially concerned if I run a CarFax and then find out the car was traded in to Tesla months ago and the car has subsequently accumulated a bunch of miles as a loaner because I know how some people beat the crap out of loaner cars.

Your strategy of taking grantees with a grain of salt is the way to go when buying any used car.

I am a skeptical person by default when it comes to used cars. Per another thread, I’ve only purchased new cars so this is a huge departure for me, which means I’ve done as much homework as possible. Carfax was the first thing. I ran them for other cars, which showed mileage increases, i.e. loaners.
I also made it abundantly clear to my specialist that I was not interested in re-sprayed panels in exchange for a lower price. The car that’s in transit to me looks to be a lease return, as confirmed by Carfax and mileage (def in the ballpark). At the end of the day, I’ll walk and give them my $1K if things don’t pan out, but my specialist has been super and said the intent of the CPO program is for a buyer to pick up the car and not come back until the yearly service appt. Thats the level they want the cars to be at after refurbishment. Obviously that’s not always the case, but I can appreciate that’s what they are shooting for. We shall see...
 
I am a skeptical person by default when it comes to used cars. Per another thread, I’ve only purchased new cars so this is a huge departure for me, which means I’ve done as much homework as possible. Carfax was the first thing. I ran them for other cars, which showed mileage increases, i.e. loaners.
I also made it abundantly clear to my specialist that I was not interested in re-sprayed panels in exchange for a lower price. The car that’s in transit to me looks to be a lease return, as confirmed by Carfax and mileage (def in the ballpark). At the end of the day, I’ll walk and give them my $1K if things don’t pan out, but my specialist has been super and said the intent of the CPO program is for a buyer to pick up the car and not come back until the yearly service appt. Thats the level they want the cars to be at after refurbishment. Obviously that’s not always the case, but I can appreciate that’s what they are shooting for. We shall see...

Just in case they present you with a CPO car with issues so major that you refuse delivery, they should absolutely let you transfer the deposit towards another car. In fact I think I have read other forum posts where this was done, so I don't think you need to worry about the deposit. It's not your fault that in such a scenario they did not disclose significant issues about the car in advance.

Good thing you made sure the car was not potentially beaten up as a loaner. Please let us know how the delivery turns out and congrats! :D

Glad you've had good communication with your delivery specialist and you've set the expectations in advance on what you deem acceptable. I hope you have those assurances via email so you have something in writing ;)
 
I'm almost at the end of my patience waiting for the options I'm looking for at the right price. The attached sold in early Feb and was nearly perfect but I wanted pearl white rather than plain white. They dropped the price of it from $76K to $71K and it sold within 1 day. I thought about just leasing a new one and went online and the deliveries are now out to JUNE! Crazy! Guess I'll give it another 1-2 weeks but that's it. I've already decided I'll be buying something regardless in 1-2 weeks. It ends soon.
 

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Guess I'll give it another 1-2 weeks but that's it. I've already decided I'll be buying something regardless in 1-2 weeks. It ends soon.
I feel your pain... but, I wouldn’t put time limit on it unless there’s a hard reason vs frustration.
Just set a price target that, once hit, you pull the trigger. A target that you don’t try to squeeze another $200 bucks from and one that you won’t kick yourself over for missing out on because of it. The example you attached seems to be the majority of the cfgs becoming available, so I’ll bet another car pops up soon. Are you solely looking for Pearl White? Max mileage is? Regardless, good luck!!!
 
I feel your pain... but, I wouldn’t put time limit on it unless there’s a hard reason vs frustration.
Just set a price target that, once hit, you pull the trigger. A target that you don’t try to squeeze another $200 bucks from and one that you won’t kick yourself over for missing out on because of it. The example you attached seems to be the majority of the cfgs becoming available, so I’ll bet another car pops up soon. Are you solely looking for Pearl White? Max mileage is? Regardless, good luck!!!
I don't have any wheels at the moment so not going to hold off too much longer. I've decided to step down to either the P85 or P85+ from a private seller if it has the right options. That's opening things up and will save me a bit of cash. I can drive that for a year and see what the landscape looks like in the P85D world later.