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P85D sold for $87k

silverp85+

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Dec 21, 2015
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New York
Of course there will be drops, but just because demand may flatten and the cars aren't getting any younger. Some people don't necessarily want the bigger Model S for various reasons or want a new car, not a used/CPO.

the cpo comes with a new car warrantee (4yr/50k) and remainder of the original 8yr unlimited on drivetrain. by the time you get to the performance of a cpo you'll end up spending more for the model 3. also the cpo go through rigorous inspections. the condition you get a cpo in is literally almost new. even the tires cant be less than 6/32nds or replaced with new ones.

would you buy a new boxster over a 2 yr old Carrera gts with 20k miles on it with new car warrantee and new condition? I know I wouldn't

the model 3 is going to be a stripped car with no leather, no tech, no supercharger, no pano and so forth. you add all that crap with performance suspension, rims and dual motor option you're looking at 65k easily with only a 200 mile battery.
 
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JQ11

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Aug 19, 2015
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48
Jackson, WY
This is exactly how I bought mine. Bid on the same car for several months - guy finally called me sold for the price I bid.

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I'll make a bet with you JQ11 - that car doesn't sell above $90K, just like the $104K P85D above it with no PANO that has been list for over 12 weeks!.No PANO is a huge hit in the over $70K market.
Ebay is one of the best market price driven environments you can watch for cars. My FJ Cruiser, P85+, Sienna Limited, Passat, VFR800 all bought on eBay at or below market prices without all the dealer drama and fees. Be patient and be persistent - but also be prepared to buy a deal if you see one.

My point was that it's irrelevant to post the current price on a vehicle where the reserve is not yet met.

Here's a $120k+ Ferrari that's only $40k in that case:
Ferrari 430 Berlinetta | eBay

I hope you and everyone on this site gets a great deal on the Tesla you want - I'm looking forward to adding an X so all Tesla love here man.
 

Xenoilphobe

Active Member
Jan 2, 2014
4,586
4,314
Fairfax County, Virginia
JQ11 same here - I plan to get an X once they get production going.

I hope everyone gets a Tesla some day at the price they want too. I'm really just trying to get more people to adopt the car and frankly the used market is the place for those with more constrained budgets to get in the game!
But I would love to get a Koenigsegg Agera R but they are never on ebay! Except for this one
 

MitchJi

Trying to learn kindness, patience & forgiveness
Jun 1, 2015
3,985
8,907
Marin County, CA
the model 3 is going to be a stripped car with no leather, no tech, no supercharger, no pano and so forth. you add all that crap with performance suspension, rims and dual motor option you're looking at 65k easily with only a 200 mile battery.
Too many assumptions.

Why not get a CPO M3?
 

TSLA Pilot

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Mar 12, 2013
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2,449
United States
Too many assumptions.

Why not get a CPO M3?

Concur.

Also, what's with the poster's comment: "no leather" somehow equals a "stripped" car? Try again. Our MX order (still somewhat pending given the circumstances of the X, and our situation) will be a cruelty-free and environmentally friendly MX 90D at about $120k. I'd hardly call that "stripped."

It's long past time for people to get past worldviews from the previous century . . .

http://gizmodo.com/how-leather-is-slowly-killing-the-people-and-places-tha-1572678618

http://www.cowspiracy.com
 

mindsweeper

Member
Jan 15, 2015
30
24
Norway
Used P85D´s (all 2015 models - earliest delivered is March) go for from $90k in Norway. Of course influenced by the strong dollar, but still 30% below new purchase price.
 

Xenoilphobe

Active Member
Jan 2, 2014
4,586
4,314
Fairfax County, Virginia
P85D loaded with some aftermarket stuff just for sold for $95K on eBay. I wonder what it would have gone for without the Clarus door speakers, Zapco amp with cooling fan, 10 inch Dayton audio subwoofer in custom enclosure built into side panel of the trunk taking up minimal space), Escort Front Laser Shifter System (twin laser receivers hidden inside front bumper, with toggle switch hidden inside the cabin).
 

EarlyAdopter

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Jun 24, 2012
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2,048
Redmond, WA
P85D loaded with some aftermarket stuff just for sold for $95K on eBay. I wonder what it would have gone for without the Clarus door speakers, Zapco amp with cooling fan, 10 inch Dayton audio subwoofer in custom enclosure built into side panel of the trunk taking up minimal space), Escort Front Laser Shifter System (twin laser receivers hidden inside front bumper, with toggle switch hidden inside the cabin).

$97K.

That's a ton of aftermarket mods with no warranty and the potential for 12V electrical issues. Net negative in my book.
 

Xenoilphobe

Active Member
Jan 2, 2014
4,586
4,314
Fairfax County, Virginia
I thought all Teslas have a infinite mile factory powertrain warranty and a 4 year 50K bumper to bumper warranty.

I guess I am screwed when I sell mine - dual HD cameras, tow hitch for bike rack, ac power inverter, upgraded Light Harmonic Stereo System (when I finally get it), carbons fiber rims, upgraded trunk and frunk lights etc. PVD black chrome winter 19", PVD black chrome summer 21" (for sale), every power adapter I could think of including CHADeMO. Almost all of this is portable for the next Model S.
 

hybridbear

Member
Oct 6, 2015
692
248
Minneapolis
Been there. Done that. Got burned badly on a 2001 Z that I bought remotely in Florida. Not only did hte seller lie but the inspection that I paid for missed EVERYTHING.
The eBay Buyer Protection program should have helped you. We bought a Saab 9-5 on eBay a number of years ago from a private seller in Florida. He was selling it relatively cheaply because it had an oil leak. His listing claimed that the oil leak was from the valve cover gasket. I confirmed that with him through eBay messages. When we received the car the oil leak was much worse than he claimed. I took it to my local expert Saab mechanic who confirmed what I suspected. We initiated a case with eBay, got estimates from 3 mechanics & received ~$2500 from eBay for the issues. The estimates from the 3 mechanics put the repair costs closer to $3000. Since the car had only cost us ~$5200, eBay wanted to just buy the car back from us (but not reimburse us for shipping, license plate fees or sales tax). I said that I'd only take that offer if they would reimburse us for shipping, sales tax & license fees (close to $1500). They said that they could not give us that much money but they could instead give us $2500 and let us keep the car. So that's what we did. I did a few repairs myself that cost less than $100 in parts & only took me a few hours which fixed the majority of the oil leak. We sold the car about a year & a half later for around $5000. Overall, I was very pleased with how eBay took care of us in this situation. Did you have a similar good experience with them?

Our experience has made me more likely to buy another car on eBay. In fact, we bought a car from Texas Direct Auto through eBay back in 2011. It was a very good experience & I will now definitely keep them in mind when we get close to potentially buying a Model S.
 

Xenoilphobe

Active Member
Jan 2, 2014
4,586
4,314
Fairfax County, Virginia
I didn't even know that had the program - I've never needed it, but good to know about it. I just read the fine print on the program and they limit the liability to $50K. Not so good if you get a bum deal on a Tesla.
 

tga

Supporting Member
Apr 8, 2014
3,953
2,796
New Hampshire
The eBay Buyer Protection program should have helped you.
A friend bought a fairly rare Porsche track car via eBay. The seller told him all the right things, the broker said they had a PPI report they would send him (but kept forgetting to). He was in a hurry to buy the car before someone else, and forgot to "look before you leap." Needless to say, he got burned. The $70K car needed ~$25k of repairs. Just the transmission rebuild would have cost $8000 at a shop, because of a required magic alignment tool that you can only get from Porsche for $5000 and is absolutely, positively needed to align shims inside the transmission, or it'll self-destruct after being put back in service. There is no way to do the rebuild without the tool.

EBay negotiated a buyer protection settlement of ~$8000. Luckily, my friend is very good at working on Porsches, and could do most of the work himself (he did need to outsource the transmission alignment). An ordinary buyer would have been screwed.

Moral of the story? (1) always get an independent PPI, and (2) eBay buyer protection my help, but don't expect to be made whole in the case of severe screwage...
 

lovingit

Member
Dec 22, 2015
61
0
Orange County, CA
A friend bought a fairly rare Porsche track car via eBay. The seller told him all the right things, the broker said they had a PPI report they would send him (but kept forgetting to). He was in a hurry to buy the car before someone else, and forgot to "look before you leap." Needless to say, he got burned. The $70K car needed ~$25k of repairs. Just the transmission rebuild would have cost $8000 at a shop, because of a required magic alignment tool that you can only get from Porsche for $5000 and is absolutely, positively needed to align shims inside the transmission, or it'll self-destruct after being put back in service. There is no way to do the rebuild without the tool.

EBay negotiated a buyer protection settlement of ~$8000. Luckily, my friend is very good at working on Porsches, and could do most of the work himself (he did need to outsource the transmission alignment). An ordinary buyer would have been screwed.

Moral of the story? (1) always get an independent PPI, and (2) eBay buyer protection my help, but don't expect to be made whole in the case of severe screwage...


Doesn't the ebay buyer protection plan cover up to $50,000?
hey only paid $8000 out of that?
 

Xenoilphobe

Active Member
Jan 2, 2014
4,586
4,314
Fairfax County, Virginia
True or in my case I drove the 65 miles to the guys house and drove the car - then called Tesla to have them run the VIN. They would only tell me that it had been regularly maintained and that was about it.
A friend bought a fairly rare Porsche track car via eBay. The seller told him all the right things, the broker said they had a PPI report they would send him (but kept forgetting to). He was in a hurry to buy the car before someone else, and forgot to "look before you leap." Needless to say, he got burned. The $70K car needed ~$25k of repairs. Just the transmission rebuild would have cost $8000 at a shop, because of a required magic alignment tool that you can only get from Porsche for $5000 and is absolutely, positively needed to align shims inside the transmission, or it'll self-destruct after being put back in service. There is no way to do the rebuild without the tool.

EBay negotiated a buyer protection settlement of ~$8000. Luckily, my friend is very good at working on Porsches, and could do most of the work himself (he did need to outsource the transmission alignment). An ordinary buyer would have been screwed.

Moral of the story? (1) always get an independent PPI, and (2) eBay buyer protection my help, but don't expect to be made whole in the case of severe screwage...
 

sorka

Well-Known Member
Feb 28, 2015
8,144
5,933
Merced, CA
The eBay Buyer Protection program should have helped you. We bought a Saab 9-5 on eBay a number of years ago from a private seller in Florida. He was selling it relatively cheaply because it had an oil leak. His listing claimed that the oil leak was from the valve cover gasket. I confirmed that with him through eBay messages. When we received the car the oil leak was much worse than he claimed. I took it to my local expert Saab mechanic who confirmed what I suspected. We initiated a case with eBay, got estimates from 3 mechanics & received ~$2500 from eBay for the issues. The estimates from the 3 mechanics put the repair costs closer to $3000. Since the car had only cost us ~$5200, eBay wanted to just buy the car back from us (but not reimburse us for shipping, license plate fees or sales tax). I said that I'd only take that offer if they would reimburse us for shipping, sales tax & license fees (close to $1500). They said that they could not give us that much money but they could instead give us $2500 and let us keep the car. So that's what we did. I did a few repairs myself that cost less than $100 in parts & only took me a few hours which fixed the majority of the oil leak. We sold the car about a year & a half later for around $5000. Overall, I was very pleased with how eBay took care of us in this situation. Did you have a similar good experience with them?

Our experience has made me more likely to buy another car on eBay. In fact, we bought a car from Texas Direct Auto through eBay back in 2011. It was a very good experience & I will now definitely keep them in mind when we get close to potentially buying a Model S.

That's *exactly* why I'm not willing to pay as much for a car on ebay. Quite a story but not something I want to deal with myself.
 

calisnow

Banned
Oct 11, 2014
2,867
4,651
Los Angeles
There's one on ebay right now for $99K on a 2014 white, no pano roof, 19K miles, no premium package, 19" base wheels. I offered $82K and just got a counter offer of $92K. It does have air suspension and hi fi sound and black next gen seats. I re-countered the seller's $92K counter at $83.5K because I really don't want a white Tesla with black interior, but at that price I'd probably have to make myself take it.
 

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