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I would like to see what data you have that suggests that the V3 is more prone to degradation than a V1, as my extensive research reveals the exact opposite.
I also disagree that there is nothing "wrong" with the V1 pack. Apart from the range degradation issues, the V1 battery is 1500 amps, while the V2 and V3 are 1600 amps. If I bought a P90D ludicrous from the factory and the next guy, the next day, bought the same car, but I ended up with a V1 and he ended up with a V2, I would be lawsuit pissed.
I've cancelled 2 CPO P90D ludicrous exactly because they have V1 batteries. Further, Tesla's own parts list indicates that a V1 does NOT belong in a factory-ludicrous.
awesome...nothing like data!I have a Racelogic Vbox and will download the powertools app. Ill pull some numbers as soon as i get a chance and update what my V1 shows.
If you went to a Mercedes dealership and purchased an S550 and you got home, opened the hood and found a 400 engine in it, would you be angry?I would have to dig through a lot of old threads, which is why I said the evidence is anecdotal and probably conjecture. Take it or leave it as far as V1/V2 being less prone to degradation. It may simply be the fact that if the V3 pack hits the 1600 amps often, it will break down the battery faster than one that hits only 1500 amps. Why would you be pissed if you got a V2 vs some guy getting a V1? Neither of them provide enough current to hit the advertised spec and for all intents and purposes, V1 and V2 are basically the same pack. V3 and ONLY V3 packs can hit the 2.8s 0 - 60 spec.
As far as the V1V2 being fine, did you even read what I wrote? I said the V1/V2 packs are just fine if you don't have Ludicrous. Your car behaves within spec. It's literally the first sentence I wrote. If you only have Insane mode, you don't need 1600 amps and 1500 amps is more than enough for Insane launches. I absolutely stand by my statement that that V1/V2 packs are perfectly fine and within spec for a non-Ludicrous car.
If you went to a Mercedes dealership and purchased an S550 and you got home, opened the hood and found a 400 engine in it, would you be angry?
That's EXACTLY the same thing as ordering a factory P90Dl, which Tesla's OWN PARTS LIST SPECIFIES V2 BATTERY ONLY, and finding a V1. In law we call it "non-conforming goods" and is a valid basis of a lawsuit 10 times out of 10.
Why would I be pissed? Because an identical car can pull up to me at a red light and blow me away. V1 = 1500 amps. V2 = 1600. You mistakenly and confusingly put the those two batteries in the same category, despite being given sufficient knowledge as to why they DON'T go together.
Now, as far as your final wrong statement about V1 being ok in an Insane car....sure, as long as it doesn't suffer degradation....since you mistakenly assume it's the v3 batter that has range issues, not the v1, you have no basis for your statement that the V1 is ok for ANY car.
If you went to a Mercedes dealership and purchased an S550 and you got home, opened the hood and found a 400 engine in it, would you be angry?
That's EXACTLY the same thing as ordering a factory P90Dl, which Tesla's OWN PARTS LIST SPECIFIES V2 BATTERY ONLY, and finding a V1. In law we call it "non-conforming goods" and is a valid basis of a lawsuit 10 times out of 10.
Why would I be pissed? Because an identical car can pull up to me at a red light and blow me away. V1 = 1500 amps. V2 = 1600. You mistakenly and confusingly put the those two batteries in the same category, despite being given sufficient knowledge as to why they DON'T go together.
Now, as far as your final wrong statement about V1 being ok in an Insane car....sure, as long as it doesn't suffer degradation....since you mistakenly assume it's the v3 batter that has range issues, not the v1, you have no basis for your statement that the V1 is ok for ANY car.
Whats wrong with a non-L P90D V1?
Buddy apparently can't understand a little humor....Dude... what the hell are you talking about? Nobody but you is talking about a V1/V2 battery in a Ludicrous car. Seriously... nobody but you. You are the only person in this conversation that continues to bring that up.
I seriously can't continue to have any sort of discourse with you if you refuse to read what I've actually written.
Please provide your data that shows V1/V2 batteries suffer greater degradation than V3 batteries. I can not, at this time, provide you with any contrary data, so I'm fine with whatever data you have. As I said, once again, it's purely conjecture and anecdotal evidence.
Now stop talking about Ludicrous V1/V2 batteries. Nobody is talking about that and nobody wants to talk about those in this context. So stop.
Nothing is wrong with the V1 non-L P90D, regardless of what Upscaleman continues to post about. If you have that configuration, you got exactly what was advertised and what you expected. The only people that did not get that are Ludicrous V1/V2 battery holders.
It's not me, it's you.
If I bought a P90D ludicrous from the factory and the next guy, the next day, bought the same car, but I ended up with a V1 and he ended up with a V2, I would be lawsuit pissed.
That's EXACTLY the same thing as ordering a factory P90Dl, which Tesla's OWN PARTS LIST SPECIFIES V2 BATTERY ONLY, and finding a V1. In law we call it "non-conforming goods" and is a valid basis of a lawsuit 10 times out of 10.
I'm looking forward to the day you upload an avatarA "lawyer" that can't figure out that you are legally entitled to get the correct parts according to the manufacturer's own parts sheet.....you must not win that often....
Charged up to 90% SOC (230 miles).That would put my 100% at 243 miles. I have 11k miles. Degradation? Or as expected for real world?
Anywho, Newbie question: to test max power do I need to be over 90% SOC? If not I will do some test runs later today.
I'm looking forward to the day you upload an avatar
Virgin P90D range = 270 EPA
90% = 243
So if your 100% = 243, then you've lost 10%.
I wouldn't be worried as you are just starting to put miles on the car, the drop in the beginning is supposed to be large, then starts to slow down. My (2015 ~38k mi) 90% gets me up to 225mi.
As for max powa, IMO it's safe to assume max charge (100%) would help achieve max powaaa.
A "lawyer" that can't figure out that you are legally entitled to get the correct parts according to the manufacturer's own parts sheet.....
.....you must not win that often....
Here's the parts list. Show me how a V1 battery belongs in a factory ludicrous...
and this isn't evidence of at least the indicia of fraud?