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P90D Owners - What Is Your Wh/mile and 90% Rated Range?

Discussion in 'Model S: Battery & Charging' started by ArtInCT, Feb 10, 2016.

  1. ArtInCT

    ArtInCT Always Learning

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    #1 ArtInCT, Feb 10, 2016
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    Just wondering what the feedback is on the small but growing fleet of P90D's out there as it relates to:

    Average Lifetime Watt Hours Per Mile and your 90% Rated Range?

    Also for SuperCharger to SuperCharger refuels, what are your thoughts on range vs highway speed?

    I will create the first reply to be a WIKI into which we can keep track of the data.

    Thanks

    ARTinCT

    PS: If you have a P90D without Ludicrous, please note that... thanks.

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    [WIKI]WIKI P90D METRICS[/WIKI]
     
  2. AWDtsla

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    235.5 Miles, 453 Wh/mi

    Don't have enough superchargers where I need them to use the Tesla for road trips.
     
  3. sorka

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    Geez. Mine is less than 300 lifetime in my P85DL. What are you doing to get it so high?
     
  4. CHG-ON

    CHG-ON Still in love after all these miles

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    Yikes! That is high. I thought that the D's were supposed to be more efficient than my +. I'm at 340 with 19K mi.

     
  5. AWDtsla

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    Cold weather. Mix of short and long drives. It's over 600 the last 2 days. But it doesn't get close to rated even with highway drives. I even got the 19's with the cyclones that are supposed to be the most efficient AND running 49 PSI.

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    Drove a P85 for a day, it was slightly better, I felt like I could actually achieve rated if I drove like grandma. Maybe if nothing else because the total power was limited by availability and traction. Glad I waited though, the new cars are so much better that the old ones.

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    The worst I've seen it.
     
  6. .andrew

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    California owned/operated P90DL, 9000 miles on the odometer.
    240 miles at 90%
    348Wh/mi (216Wh/km) over the last 3,137.9 mi (5,050 km).
    I'm not sure where to find lifetime Wh/mi.
     
  7. ArtInCT

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    .andrew:

    If you display your trip odometers on the 17" screen you can see the A and B trips.
    Most owners ever reset trip B thus is serves as a lifetime Wh/m meter.
     
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    Yeah, apparently i reset both of mine 3,137.9 miles ago.
     
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    #9 ArtInCT, Feb 11, 2016
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    Thanks Ok, hey what size wheels are you running .andrew?

    BTW, if you click on the WIKI P90D METRICS up in the first post, you can see the table of data....
     
  10. Walta

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    357 Wh/mi last 30 miles
     
  11. TheTank

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    I have 12000 miles on my car and get 223 miles at 90%. (244 at 100%) Its almost like having a 70D. It fell to this level after 3000 miles. I have had an open ticket with Tesla for 4 months with their response that it is not the battery, it is the software. So I await that magical software upgrade. My full charge is 245 miles. Has anyone else experienced this level of degradation and what has their response been?
     
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    I have the 21" wheels with Michelin Pilot Sport tires.
     
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    232 miles @ 90% with 4k miles
    365 wh/mile
     
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    Little over 2,000 miles, still shows the same 338 miles at 90% from the day I took delivery.
     
  15. Ames

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    232 miles at 90% and I'm only at 550 miles. The car was ordered in August and it has been intransit since it was made from the US to Holland to Norway to the UAE. I have been driving it a week...
     
  16. ArtInCT

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    #16 ArtInCT, Feb 12, 2016
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    Kwang:

    338 or 238? Rated Range please. Please check and WH/MILE and wheel size?? thanks

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    Ames! Congrats on the new arrival. any feedback on WH/Mile or WH/KM? and wheel size please. thanks.

    GUYS MAYBE WE CAN FOLLOW THIS FORMAT PLEASE:

    WH/Mile: XXX
    90% Rated Range: YYY
    WHEEL SIZE: 21 20 or 19
    Ludicrous: Yes or No

    Thanks, I have been populating the table of data which you can access from the first post in the WIKI area....

    Regarding Rated Range and the 90 Battery.... there is a known and acknowledged error in the Rated Range calculation by Tesla. It is supposed to be fixed in a future software release. The displayed Rated Range is decaying at a faster rate than it should be. Tesla knows this. I have seen some new P90D's at delivery time display 242 or 243 Miles most recently.

    Thanks to all who have posted their data!
     
  17. jcoverton

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    WH/mi: 346
    90% range: 227
    Wheel size: 19
    Ludicrous: yes

    I asked at SC to check the battery last month and they said it checked out to be in the 90th percentile of Model S batteries. I have 7100 miles and have had this 90% since December. Delivery was Oct 1st.
     
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    #18 ArtInCT, Feb 16, 2016
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    Just updated TheTanks's WH/Mile in the WIKI.... any other P90D owners out there?

    Ames: just updated your data also, thanks!
     
  19. Ames

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    WH/Mile: 336 (209 wh/kilometre)
    90% Rated Range: 232
    Wheel Size: 21” Staggered
    Ludicrous: Yes
     
  20. JenniferQ

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    338 whm
    232 miles at 90%
    21" Staggered
    Ludicrous always on/Range mode usually off

    Originally my 90% was 246, but I suppose the algorithm uses this data to get RR and since my long distance driving is usually at 80mph, that would push RR down from when I first took delivery?

    Of course, I now just use battery percentage rather than miles.
     

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