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PA Turnpike finally getting chargers

Discussion in 'Mid-Atlantic' started by AnOutsider, Apr 23, 2013.

  1. AnOutsider

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    I thought this was the plan a year or two ago, but anywho.... From WFMZ:

     
  2. Electric1

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    This is major. Personally, I have family in Pittsburgh and now I can drive my MS there without range anxiety. For the community, it is the beginning of East-West travel, as PA has been a charger wasteland. Now we can only hope that they are 40 AMP.

    Would be nice to see a supercharger somewhere on the pike, though!
     
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    Hopefully the chargers will provide a faster charge than the typical level 2, J-1772 chargers you find at most places. It's hard to kill several hours at an interstate rest stop!
     
  4. AnOutsider

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    I doubt they will sadly.
     
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    Well breaking this down, that's about 150K per rest stop... The only way I can get to that number is with the installation of a CHAdeMO station, and a number of L2's... I sadly expect them to be 200V 30A stations. Perhaps someone has connections into the group doing this that could push for 80A 1772 stations instead. The incremental cost increase for that would be minor relative to the 150K planned install costs.

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  6. JakeP

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    This is very good news, and will be even better if and when augmented with Superchargers. Interestingly, I noticed on the most recently renovated rest areas, there is reserved parking close to the building for alternative and hybrid vehicles. But this says the chargers will be further away (which is better in my opinion, as there is lower chance the space will be ICEd).

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    I just found this...they say these will be Level 3s...but note this is pretty old:

    http://www.pgh-cleancities.org/wordpress/?p=912

    Turnpike to Become More Electric-Vehicle Friendly
    Published on February 16, 2012 by admin in Uncategorized

    The Pennsylvania Turnpike intends to offer electric vehicle charging stations at all 17 service plazas located east of the Harrisburg area by the end of 2013. Each service area plans to incorporate two Level III charging stations that charge up in about 20 minutes. Also, one Level I station will be added, which allows vehicles to charge in up to four hours. Car Charging LLC received a $1 million grant from the Department of Environmental Protection (DEP) to complete the installations. The first three stations will be added east of the Harrisburg exits. By the end of next year, the second phase of installations will occur west of the Harrisburg area. Plans for the third phase are set to be added to the Northeastern Extension in 2013.

    For additional information on the PA Turnpike charging station plans, click here.
     
  7. AnOutsider

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    Nice! I hope they stick to 78/80 for the super chargers. Not sure the turnpike is really the best place for them.
     
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    I think they need one SC right at Breezewood on I-76, to allow travel between Pittsburgh-Philly and Pittsburgh-DC.

    Did you notice that these chargers will be pay stations, but they haven't set the price yet? Here is the official press release in full:

    http://www.paturnpike.com/press/2013/20130423123241.htm

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    The worst part will be if these are implemented with ChaDeMo, and we lack an adapter.
     
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    Used to drive on this road all the time before moving to Raleigh. Were I still a Pennsylvanian, I'd love this.
     
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    I have no doubt when they say "two Level III charging stations that charge up in about 20 minutes" they mean CHAdeMO chargers, that is always the tag line associated with them and charging a Leaf. To then follow that on with a single Level 1 charger means that the entire location is worthless to us. Unfortunately with these types of decisions being made by those that do not drive EV's, it ends up being more of a waste than not.

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    Seriously, a Level 2 charger would be much more useful. Maybe Tesla will either beat them to the punch with a supercharger, or give us a CHAdeMO adapter. I haven't been following that discussion, but I will sure start following it now!
     
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    So I searched the Oakmont and New Stanton Plazas for any sign of EV infrastructure construction today, and there was none. But I asked the girls at Starbucks in New Stanton if they had heard anything, and they said that they had just gotten an email this week saying a guy would be out next week to scout locations for the EV chargers.

    Of course this is good news/bad news, as a Level 1 + CHAdeMO Level 3 DC charger will be useless to Tesla owners. But if that comes to pass (why wouldn't they include a 70A Level 2???), it may motivate me to sign up for Twitter just so I can send Elon a pic of the first time I was ever disappointed with my Model S, as I hold a CHAdeMO plug and have nowhere to plug it in.

    Hopefully they address this quickly, as it is so easily fixed by retrofitting a CHAdeMO adapter, or installing a handful of Superchargers along these routes. I really don't want to wait two years before I can roam more than 100+ miles from my house with my 85kWh...which turned so many heads today that I lost count!
     
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    From the latest announcement (The Pennsylvania Turnpike - Service Plazas)

    "The cost to fully charge a vehicle is $2, and for Blink members it is $1" for the Level II chargers. It sounds like the charge is per charging event and not per-hour. At 7kW, you get more than $1 of electricity (at residential retail rates) per hour, so if the description is accurate, the price is quite reasonable.

    We'll see what the CHAdeMO pricing is when it comes on line. Sheetz is charging $12/hour in PA, but the Turnpike might still make it a flat fee per car.
     
  14. AnOutsider

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    whoa, whoa, sheetz is offering charging? Where?
     
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    Please note that on Plugshare you will find that Sheetz is deploying Chademo across Pennsylvania.
     
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    From official Tesla forum:

    Greetings all! This is Carl from the PA Turnpike public-relations office. I wanted to clarify that we are installing multiple Level III stations at all 17 service plazas by the end of the calendar year; we started with the Level IIs, but will begin Level III installation this summer. Sorry we did not clarify that detail in the online article! Any questions, please email me, [email protected].
     
  18. JakeP

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    These CHAdeMOs are all built by Eaton, right here Cranberry. I took my car up there a year ago, and they were all pleased as punch to see her. "Let us build you an adapter", they said.

    Why wouldn't Tesla partner with them to permanently affix an adapter to all of these units? This would be cheap for Tesla, and would exponentially expand fast-charging capabilities. Yes, we might have to pay for the convenience...but wouldn't it be worth it?
     
  19. Curt

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    80 Amp Level 2 chargers would be much more useful.
     
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    #20 JakeP, Apr 26, 2014
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    Unfortunately the Level II chargers they are installing are 32A.
     

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