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PA Turnpike Superchargers coming (a theory)

Discussion in 'Mid-Atlantic' started by Craig_in_PA, Jan 5, 2021.

  1. Craig_in_PA

    Craig_in_PA Member

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    So Tesla updated their notoriously aspirational "Find Us" map for 2021.

    There are now "coming soon" locations for Allentown 2, Denver, Elverson, Hunker, Jim Thorpe, and Somerset 2, all of which appear to be curiously close to Turnpike rest stops.

    While the coming soon locations tend not to be specific for cities, all 6 of these are suspiciously close to rest stops specifically.

    The PA Turnpike Commission must have seen the light, or Tesla paid to their satisfaction.
     
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  2. Craig_in_PA

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    #2 Craig_in_PA, Jan 5, 2021
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    Here's the new map
    Find Us | Tesla

    Allentown 2 is located right beside the Allentown service plaza (bidirectional service)

    Somerset 2 is between the East and North service plazas. (Hopefully SuC at each for bidirectional service but who knows)

    Elverson is located just east of the Peter J Camiel service plaza (westbound service only)

    Denver is located just east of the Bowmansville service plaza (eastbound service only)

    Jim Thorpe is located right beside the Hickory Run service plaza. (Bidirectional service)

    Hunker is located just east of the New Stanton service plaza. (westbound service only)

    Me thinks the PTC signed a contract.
     
  3. Craig_in_PA

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    There's a 7th one too. Verona is located just west of the Oakmont Travel Plaza (eastbound service only)
     
  4. Craig_in_PA

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    Further proof: the pin locations on the map do not always match the city names assigned by Tesla - example: the Elverson pin is nowhere near Elverson. However, the Peter J. Camiel service plaza has an Elverson mailing address.

    The Denver pin isn't in Denver, but the Bowmansville service plaza has a Denver address.

    The Jim Thorpe pin isn't in Jim Thorpe, but the Hickory Run service plaza has a Jim Thorpe address.

    The Hunker pin isn't in Hunker...blah blah blah...the New Stanton service plaza has a Hunker address.

    The Verona pin isn't in Verona...Oakmont Plum service plaza has a Hunker address.

    Somerset and Allentown match.
     
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  5. Jeepxj

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    I hope so. with the NJ turnpike getting them at every rest stop it will be annoying to have to get off the pa turnpike for a charge.
     
  6. MarcoRP

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    good sleuthing @Craig_in_PA ! Can anyone write an email or call the Turnpike Authority and ask??
     
  7. Craig_in_PA

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    I'm officially obsessed.

    Of 17 Turnpike service plazas, 5 currently have (unreliable) Level 2 and/or CHADEMO: Oakmont Plum, New Stanton, Bowmanville, Peter J. Camiel, and King of Prussia. 4 of 7 potential supercharger sites have existing EV infrastructure.

    This assumes Tesla's King of Prussia pin doesn't represent a supercharger to be built at the King of Prussia service plaza.
     
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    @Craig_in_PA sure presents a compelling case. The fact that the pins on the Find Us map are all placed right at the service plazas is certainly interesting (and unusual for Tesla).

    I don't have a strong opinion on whether it should be added to supercharge.info at this point. However, considering it's been almost 3 years since that meeting and nothing else has come out since, I'm hesitant to believe that it's even close to a permit phase. The only signal is Tesla's weak "Q2 2021" estimate.

    I think once a permit is found (or construction discovered) for any one of those service plazas then it'd be safe to assume that both Tesla and PTC are ready to begin work on all of them.
     
  10. MarcoRP

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    Looks like this isn’t a one-off case

    Tesla also seems to be partnering with the Tpke Authorities of Massachusetts and Indiana (NJ is already confirmed)
     
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  11. Craig_in_PA

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    I'm not sure how Tesla plans to handle the bidirectional service plazas. If you exit the TP going one direction, you cannot get back on in the opposite direction. The plazas are segregated based on direction of travel when exiting. I assume this has to do with tolls.

    Does Tesla split the supercharger to put half in each area? I think that is easier said than done.
     
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    I would guess they'd essentially be installing two sites into every bi-directional plaza, one in each parking lot.
     
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    I checked out Bowmansville and Peter Camiel service plazas. Both still have 2 chademos and 1 J1772 with Blink branding. Those have been there for years. Perhaps it's an exclusive contract which has expired?
     
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    I was at the Peter J. Camiel service plaza today and notice construction on the parking lot. It appears to be supercharger construction. Also this was one of the future supercharger locations on the Find us map


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  15. Craig_in_PA

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    Awesome find!

    Someone check Bowmansville in Denver.
    I cannot imagine the involvement of the PTC will speed up these installs.
     
  16. SabrToothSqrl

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    #16 SabrToothSqrl, Feb 13, 2021
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    About a year late for my needs. But glad these are going in.

    Probably safe to assume that the Denver PA location is the service center on the east bound side:

    Bowmansville Service Plaza
    Pennsylvania Turnpike, Denver, PA 17517

    Google Maps

    I'll be on the turnpike Tuesday, so I'll see if there is anything at both.

    But what about the Wendy's location?! Won't somebody think of the Wendys?! My buddy and I stopped here with his gas pickup about a year before I got my first Tesla just to check it out. He was picking up a motorcycle near there. I took several trips out that way - it was like the ONLY charger around Harrisburg for a long time.
     
  17. ItsNotAboutTheMoney

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    Elverson, PA (Peter J Camiel Service Plaza).

    Along Primary Interstates: I-76E - Westbound Only
    Along US Numbered Highways (<=5mi): None
    Along Auxiliary Interstates: None

    I-76E Westbound
    From: Start (NJ-42/I-295 near Camden, NJ) - 48.8 miles
    To: Carlisle, PA - 80.7 miles
    Diversion: 0.0 miles
    To: Breezewood, PA - 146 miles

    Westbound, splits a 129.5 mile gap from the start of I-76E.
    Now needs an Eastbound splitter.
     
  18. Newscutter

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    Good find! Thank you for posting!
     
  19. PhillyGal

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    Great find!! I’m a big fan of rest stop locations. Get what you need and get on your way.


    We’re always forced to take the 3 to visit my brother in law near Harrisburg if we don’t want to charge (we don’t because it’s always a short visit) but this one would be convenient enough to take the S if that’s what we want to drive.
     
  20. Amacharola

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    Carlisle, PA? it’s just about the same off the turnpike as breezewood
     

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