Pacific NW - Superchargers

[deonb]

just got off the phone with the mother ship, I put in a comment on the super charger announcement. I noted I was disappointed that so few were slated for this area and that significant portions of WA state are basically in the dark. I specifically requested that two additional locations be considered, Leavenworth WA, which being just over the pass would be a great place to top up before heading out into the various camping/hiking/vacationing areas that are currently a challenge. the other one was somewhere out on the Peninsula, like Port Angeles. I also put in yet another request for a TT30 adapter, which seems like a common RV plug up in this neck of the woods.

The other reason to consider Leavenworth is that people are frustrated that they can travel on highway 2 passing CHAdeMO chargers today and not able to use them. If you put a SuperCharger in Leavenworth it will at least partially deal with the lack of a CHAdeMO adapter.

Most other places that CHAdeMO are present today will be covered by Tesla SuperChargers, but there are like 5 or so roads that are not (even in 2015 plan). Highway 2 being one of them.

I think it would be cool after 2015 that for every 1000 or so Model S's delivered to an area, you give that area a vote of where they want to have the next charger.

 

[v12 to 12v]

The fourth dot in Oregon from today's announcement looks like it's in Stayton or some crazy thing. Any speculation as to where that might be and why Tesla thinks it's necessary to put one there?

On the original Supercharger plan map they had a dot near Kelso or Castlerock, WA. I asked about it last year and they said that the dots were just general areas.
It turns out that the Supercharger will actually be in Centralia, which is a much more ideal location.

My guess is that they were trying to not be too specific just in case they had issues with securing a location or trouble working with a particular utility.

 

[brianman]

On the original Supercharger plan map they had a dot near Kelso or Castlerock, WA.

I always looked more like Centralia to me.

(BIG JPG) Supercharger overlay map
All sizes | SuperchargersLongTermPlanOverlay1 | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

I'll try to make a new map with the 2015 dots when I get a chance at home.

 

[Frankc]

Brianman will do a much more comprehensive job, but I did the map of today's announcement for Oregon (thru winter 2013).

If today's map is meant to be accurate, it would indicate systems would be in Salem, Eugene, Roseburg, and Medford. This is contrary to the notion of placing superchargers BETWEEN population centers, and not in them directly. It also puts the nearest SC to Centralia 138 miles away (Salem) which is well beyond the 80 to 100 mile limit for 'well traveled areas'.

All of this tends to make me think these are still general indicators and not committed placements?

 

[brianman]

I'll try to make a new map with the 2015 dots when I get a chance at home.

Brianman will do a much more comprehensive job...

I aim to please:
Supercharger Overlay 2015 (Large - 5145 x 3308)

 

[PhilBa]

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If today's map is meant to be accurate, it would indicate systems would be in Salem, Eugene, Roseburg, and Medford. This is contrary to the notion of placing superchargers BETWEEN population centers, and not in them directly. It also puts the nearest SC to Centralia 138 miles away (Salem) which is well beyond the 80 to 100 mile limit for 'well traveled areas'.

All of this tends to make me think these are still general indicators and not committed placements?

I agree with you last point - general placement.

There have been a number of reports of Woodburn as the SC location, not Salem. That makes more sense as it is a bit closer to Centralia (120 mi). Though, Wilsonville makes even more sense (108 miles to Centralia, 93 to Eugene and lots of amenities).

 

[AndyM]

I agree with you last point - general placement.

There have been a number of reports of Woodburn as the SC location, not Salem. That makes more sense as it is a bit closer to Centralia (120 mi). Though, Wilsonville makes even more sense (108 miles to Centralia, 93 to Eugene and lots of amenities).

Land is cheaper in Woodburn, and it's more of a travel-centered economy there. The outlet mall is a huge traffic area for out-of-towners, especially in shopping season. It reminds me a lot of the Gilroy outlet mall, where we have a model for the Supercharging plan. Wilsonville is more of a suburbs-centered economy. $1.00 says it's Woodburn.

 

[v12 to 12v]

I always looked more like Centralia to me.


I'll try to make a new map with the 2015 dots when I get a chance at home.

I was referring to the map on post #2 on this thread.

 

[brianman]

I was referring to the map on post #2 on this thread.

Right. And I was referring to the map I made from that:
http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/15124-(BIG-JPG)-Supercharger-overlay-map
All sizes | SuperchargersLongTermPlanOverlay1 | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

 

[PhilBa]

Land is cheaper in Woodburn, and it's more of a travel-centered economy there. The outlet mall is a huge traffic area for out-of-towners, especially in shopping season. It reminds me a lot of the Gilroy outlet mall, where we have a model for the Supercharging plan. Wilsonville is more of a suburbs-centered economy. $1.00 says it's Woodburn.

Yeah, but Wilsonville has Frys!

I wouldn't take that bet but still think Wilsonville is a better location due to distance from the Centralia SC. Not that I worry about it for myself - getting a P85 soon.

 

[Discoducky]

Should there be a thread dedicated to Oregon superchargers? Would be great if these were getting started as well, but beggars can't be choosers...

 

[AndyM]

I think PacNW is a big enough thread for two states' worth of supercharger activity. I plan on using them in both states equally, and one thread for both suits me well.

 

[PhilBa]

I think PacNW is a big enough thread for two states' worth of supercharger activity. I plan on using them in both states equally, and one thread for both suits me well.

I agree but if you Oregon Tesla heads are anything like us in Washington, there will be a separate thread for every SC that goes in. The Burlington one has over 100 posts and lots of pictures.

 

[brianman]

I agree but if you Oregon Tesla heads are anything like us in Washington, there will be a separate thread for every SC that goes in. The Burlington one has over 100 posts and lots of pictures.

As AndyM hints, some of us in Washington are cheering for Oregon installations as well. Makes it easier to get back to the mother ship more quickly.

 

[Puyallup Bill]

As AndyM hints, some of us in Washington are cheering for Oregon installations as well. Makes it easier to get back to the mother ship more quickly.

Yes Sir! Woodburn - it will shave a day off a trip I am planning.

 

[TsRocket]

Wish also oregon thread, seeking rendezvous with mother of all SSS's in california in fall 2013. Salem? In the hills? Yreka? Bring them and we will COME home.

 

[v12 to 12v]

I agree but if you Oregon Tesla heads are anything like us in Washington, there will be a separate thread for every SC that goes in. The Burlington one has over 100 posts and lots of pictures.

It might not be a bad idea to have a thread for each Supercharger.
It could be a place to have status reports in the future just in case there is outages, repairs, weather, congestion etc.

 

[VolkerP]

I follow the SC roll out across the U.S. through all its amazement and awe. It is spread across multiple sub forums:

TMC Community > North America > Northwest holds

Centralia Supercharger found!!
Burlington Supercharger
Pacific NW - Superchargers

TMC Community > North America > New England
here we have
New New England Supercharger Locations

TMC Community > North America > Mountain/Southwest contains

Texas Supercharger Locations

In the Florida sub forum we currently have

Where are the supercharger dots in Florida?
Superchargers at Port St Lucie
Supercharger in Ft. Myers confirmed

Then there is General Forum > Charging Standards and Infrastructure forum with threads

Darien, CT Rest Area Open... Supercharger!!
First Colorado Supercharger location confirmed
Confirmed New Supercharger Locations?
Supercharger Overlay 2015 (Large - 5145 x 3308))


would love to see all these threads in
General Forum > Charging Standards and Infrastructure > North America

 

[PhilBa]

To be honest, I prefer them in the community forums. I like that I have gotten to know a number of local tesla owners. Not sure that would happen as much with your suggestion.

 

[Discoducky]

I can't wait until the Orgegon Super Charger thread(s) starting up!