I took a chance on that post horespower-gate. Nothing seems changed yet. BTW if you google P85D horsepower right now, google still tells you 691 HP as a curated result. LOL.
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Pack Performance and Launch Mode Limits
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I took a chance on that post horespower-gate. Nothing seems changed yet. BTW if you google P85D horsepower right now, google still tells you 691 HP as a curated result. LOL.
Tech_Guy
ALWAYS IN LUDICROUS MODE! P90D>P100D Upgrade
No change to performance but a change to the state of charge... car was charged to 90% before the update now it says its charged to 93%. Charger was unplugged during the update so it didn't just charge while updateing... maybe a change to the reserved brick amounts for the pack caused the 3% increase??
Have been for a very long while IMHO (Since the original founders left)
A very well versed one at social media, but a company in it for profit at the end of the day.
Point of clarification...
When people say "upgrade from a P90D to P100D" I thought they were talking about an upgrade of the car. It sounds like here you're talking but the upgrade of an order. Very different things. We need to find a way to get crisp with our language here on TMC so we're at least arguing about the same thing.
I've seen that before. It usually just needs to be recalibrated. The BMS takes care of it.
Tech_Guy
ALWAYS IN LUDICROUS MODE! P90D>P100D Upgrade
hmm I would think it got a good calibration in last night as my home charge overnight was from 15% to 90%.... then the software update this afternoon ...
Mine usually calibrates at a full 100% charge but I've had it happen just driving around.
Tech_Guy
ALWAYS IN LUDICROUS MODE! P90D>P100D Upgrade
I did a 100% charge on Sunday which I then used down to 15% SOC... it will get another 100% charge this coming weekend though ill be sure to note the miles it thinks I can get as it was originaly 270 at 100%
And that came pimarily from in here.
The real simple comeback for Tesla to where it appears that your argument is leading, is this:
1. The V1 car will actually do 10.9, and that's what we shipped to MT. That out of a small handful of owners on TMC who tried, none reported having reached that, is irrelevant. We cannot comment on the conditions under which these owners were running the cars, states of charge, calibration of timing equipment, etc.
2. We made improvements to the battery pack, and we are allowed to make improvements over production periods, and unannounced if we decide to. These improvements resulted in a more powerful battery.
However the first iteration of the vehicle was capable of hitting 10.9, and that is what we sent to MT for testing.
You are probably not going to gain any "traction", no pun intended, with this matter. An owner not being able to reach a manufacturer's performance spec in 0-60 and quarter mile, is something which has happened in the past.
Point of clarification...
When people say "upgrade from a P90D to P100D" I thought they were talking about an upgrade of the car. It sounds like here you're talking but the upgrade of an order. Very different things. We need to find a way to get crisp with our language here on TMC so we're at least arguing about the same thing.
Negative. The car was upgraded. After delivery the 90 pack was removed and a 100 pack installed. I meant what I said
Andyw2100
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We need to find a way to get crisp with our language here on TMC so we're at least arguing about the same thing.
I DISAGREE!
I think we need to stay soggy with our language, so we can just keep arguing without anyone understanding what anyone else is arguing about. Ever. It's the TMC way!
I don't know where you're getting a change order. Person ordered a P90D. While it was in transit, the 100 was announced. Rather than cancel and re-order, person took delivery of the P90D, and then several months later, Tesla exchanged the 90 pack for a 100.
Andyw2100
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Tech_Guy
ALWAYS IN LUDICROUS MODE! P90D>P100D Upgrade
Just start, and finish, by explaining why you think there are other counter limits.
Or perhaps, what I hope is true, that you didn't mean to suggest that there are in fact other counter limits and I (and apprently others) just misinterpreted what you were intending to say.
And if so, then what did you mean when you wrote "They continue to knowingly remove capability from cars they have already shipped and backed down on only one of those sets of "counter limits" when they were caught."
"only one"?
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I read him differently than you. I read it like this:
1) [Tesla] continue to knowingly remove capability from cars they have already shipped.
2) [They] backed down on only one [of those removed capabilities]... when they were caught.
3) [That one they backed down on was] sets of "counter limits".
So the others you are asking about did not seem to be other counters to me, but other capabilities Tesla have removed from cars they have already shipped, according to lolachampcar.
Accurate @lolachampcar?
Garlan Garner
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I just asked Tesla about this yesterday and they said that they don't upgrade hardware. I'm really confused.
Of course....$20K or $10K might do it.
Hardware upgrade from P90DL to P100D was specifically offered by Tesla in September 2016. $10k for cars not yet delivered and $20k for cars delivered.
Whether or not they are now stopping that offer is another question.
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