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Paint protection film vs parking sensors

Discussion in 'Model S: Interior & Exterior' started by billarnett, Feb 17, 2015.

  1. billarnett

    billarnett Member

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    Is it okay to put paint protection film over the parking sensors? Will it have any effect on the future auto pilot features?
     
  2. JakeP

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    Film kits such as Xpel have the option to specify whether you have parking sensors or not, and if you do, they will have circles where the sensors belong. See here for example, and hit the "+" next to the various kits to see images of the pieces with or without PDC:

    Pre-cut XPEL Paint Protection Kits
     
  3. skilly

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    the pre-cut kits show seams. You want to find an installer that can take a full sheet and manipulate/cut it to a custom fit for your car. Done right and you will never see any evidence of it being there.
     
  4. JakeP

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    My pre-cut kit doesn't show any seams, and I have a full wrap with wrapped edges on all panels, except for the rear deck lid. The only place that would have a seam for the pre-cut Xpel kit is on the rear deck lid, due to the curves and angles. Be very aware that custom installers who do not use kits will be cutting the film as it sits on your car. Obviously this takes a great deal of skill, and you want an installer that isn't going to cut through the film and scar the paint.
     
  5. Jean-Claude

    Jean-Claude Local Vendor - Southeast

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    Just due to curiosity we tested PPF over the rear parking sensors and they read accurately. After testing it, the film was trimmed back to expose the sensor.

    I would not test it in the real world though. There's no good excuse for PPF to be over a sensor.
     
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    even pre-cut templates require cutting on the paint (and you are lucky about your lack of seams - that isnt the norm). Its a skill that escapes me....
     
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    I have it on both +s and they work fine. As skilly pointed out, get someone very good at this to do it entirely in one sheet. I saw the guys at Premeire do it and I'm amazed at what can be done with just a large sheet.
     
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    No. It is not ok to put paint protection film over the parking sensors. They need to be cut out. Again, do not cover sensors with paint protection film, stickers, vehicle wrap, or any other material as this will block the sensor.
     
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    I believe my installer has his own plotter to cut out the kit pieces, and he extends the kit edges to provide a margin to wrap the edges and hide the seams. He did do some cutting of excess material on the back side of the wraps, in spots that are generally hidden from view...but never on the external surfaces.
     
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    Thanks to all who responded. My Tesla is off to Premier in Fremont tomorrow for a full wrap. They said they Dont cover the sensors.
     
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    Recently, we have been leaving the film over the sensors and have not had any issues.
     
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    We just documented the accuracy of film over the sensors VS trimmed away. The video is rendering now. As soon as I have it up on Youtube I will post a link so folks can see our results.

    /teaser out :D
     
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    Since only minor autopilot features have even been implemented, initial results would be an interesting baseline.
     
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    #14 Jean-Claude, Mar 5, 2015
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    Please bear with me as this does not have good production value.

    Do Tesla Model S parking sensors read accurately with paint protection film over them? Here's how one Model S responded:

     
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    Thanks for doing the test. Alas, it's too late for me - my film is already trimmed off the sensors. But it will be interesting to see if this result holds up when more of the auto pilot stuff is implemented.
     
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    #16 yobigd20, Mar 6, 2015
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    I remember googling for PPF over parking sensors back when I had my PPF done 2 yrs ago and came up with a few sensor manufacturers that explicitly stated that anything (PPF, wraps, stickers, etc) placed over the sensor affects it's operation and voids it's warranty, hence the reason I state PPF should never cover the parking sensors. (Note that I don't have parking sensors, I was just curious). I don't know if that applies for all manufacturers or just a specific few. In any case regardless of the video above I'd rather not chance it and eliminate the risk entirely. Plus I don't think it looks good anyway bc putting the film over the sensor leaves you with this clear visible circle (especially on a black car) where the edges meet highlighting the sensor. Personally I feel like putting film over parking sensors is a short cut by installers to save time by "not doing it right" (no offense to installers here).
     
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    This is actually quite true. When leaving the film over any raised surfaces would create an bubblish outline around the sensors. This is why we trim them all off....just does not look good at all leaving them laid over the sensors.
     
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    #18 sickfox, Mar 9, 2015
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    +100 for doing this test. :biggrin:

     
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    My fiance's yellow wrap has been complete since October and all of her parking sensors were covered by the wrap. They've all continued to function normally.
     
  20. Andyw2100

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    I just want to point out that in the video you are measuring the distance from one sensor to the object, and coming up with 24 inches. The dash is showing the distance from the front of the car to the object as 22 inches. Since the nosecone is curved, the front of the car is, in fact, less than 24 inches from the object. I can't say if it is a full 2 inches closer--it's probably not. But I'm not sure why you would want to measure directly to the sensor when that's not the purpose of the sensor. The sensors, working together, are attempting to tell you how far the car is from an object. And since the portion of the car that was highlighted on the dash was the very front section, you should have been measuring from the very tip of the car, which would have resulted in the car's estimate being even closer than it was.
     
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