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Pano roof control direction

Discussion in 'Model S: User Interface' started by Boatguy, Jun 19, 2016.

  1. Boatguy

    Boatguy Member

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    OK, this is an esoteric UI issue. But having worked at a company where UI awareness is practically in the water (or coffee), it's caught my attention.

    I have the pano roof control assigned to the right roller on the steering wheel. Pushing the roller cracks it open to the vent position or closes it entirely, depending on the state.

    Rolling UP causes the dash indicator to go up towards 100% and the roof open wider, and rolling down causes it to lower the "percentage open" and the roof to close. Consistent so far as up makes the number on the dash bigger, down makes the number smaller.

    But the operation of the glass itself is the opposite. Rolling Up, causes the glass to move aft, in the opposite direction of the roller movement. And rolling Down, causes the roof to move forward, again, the opposite direction of the roller movement. This always confuses me because I think the roof should move consistent with the roller.

    Two suggestions:

    1) Reverse the roller/roof interaction so that rolling Up moves the roof towards the front of the car and rolling Down moves the roof towards the back of the car.

    2) The dashboard display and CID have their position indicators reversed from each other. Replace the dashboard diagram with a graphic that matches the CID graphic wherein the bar chart matches the overhead view of the roof position and the top position is fully closed, and the bottom position is fully open.

    This would bring consistency, peace and harmony to the pano roof controls. ;)
     
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  2. stickhog

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    Agree wholeheartedly. As a pilot, that interface irks me, but even more than that, as a human factors guy, it brings tears to my eyes due to the inconsistency in the design. Reversing the direction of the scroll wheel function would appeal to my personal sense of the "normal" (whatever that means) direction that it should work, and at the same time makes it consistent across the control and the indication on the display.

    I'm willing to bet that there are people who think rolling up should mean open and think the current bar chart makes the most sense. There's a similar issue in the overhead panels of airplanes, should the switches be moved forward for "on", or should they be moved aft for "on"? Because of the airplanes I'm used to flying, forward "on" makes the most sense to me. But then there are a whole category of people who think the other way because of the types of stuff they fly. Then there are manufacturers who design one airplane as forward "off" then the next plane is forward "on" because it was just somebody different making the decision, and that leads to all sorts of errors. Bottom line is, as long as they're consistent (i.e. control matches the display(s), and Tesla picks one way and sticks to it for all models) that's the most important thing. (especially if it's roll up for close because that's the way my brain works!)
     
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  3. Firewired

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    The controls have always felt "wrong" to me, you have just very clearly explained why. Thank You.
     
  4. Dithermaster

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    I embraced the Macintosh "natural scrolling" and my Tesla thumbwheels feel backwards. It messes me up most when I long-press them to select what is shown on each side of the display. Every time I scroll in the wrong way first. I wish they'd add a scrolling direction preference!
     
  5. Marcboy

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    FWIW I totally agree. 18 months, and I am still confused, it is totally backward what it should be.

    Now it seems that this should not be a setting, way too granular. Leave is as such, change it, but don't allow for chanign the setting in the UI, otherwise it is highway to settingspalooza.
     
  6. MrJones390

    MrJones390 Space Boat

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    My life changed when I mapped the right scroll wheel to fan speed. Only control the sunroof from touchscreen.
     
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  7. mmccord

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    I just wish clicking the scroll wheel in when the roof was closed would open it all the way, or at least half way. 'vent' is a useless position.
     
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  8. Ben W

    Ben W P85 #61, Roadster #108

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    I recommended this same change to Tesla the day I received my car, back in 2012. I've never gotten used to it. Jony Ive would never let such a minor but important detail slip through. ;)
     
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  9. Tech_Guy

    Tech_Guy Always in Ludicrous mode

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    totally agree!!
     
  10. HankLloydRight

    HankLloydRight Fluxing

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    After two years I still get this wrong!

    Thanks for posting this, it's really annoying.
     
  11. znib

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    I agree, to have to turn the wheel the wrong way has bothered me since the beginning.
     
  12. RichardL

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    wrong for me everytime, also
     
  13. Dithermaster

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    Jony Ive needs to get a Tesla and Elon's direct line.
     
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  14. HankLloydRight

    HankLloydRight Fluxing

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    Jony Ive has already done enough damage to UIs worldwide.
     
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